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Apostasy Report - Doreen Virtue Is Still Deceived

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The video is an extended polemic arguing that Doreen Virtue remains “deceived,” despite claiming repentance and aligning more with biblical Christianity. The speaker further claims Virtue’s new book will propagate what he considers biblically ungrounded—and potentially demonic—visions/dreams/visitations of Jesus.

1) Fair use and copyright—framing a dispute

  • The presenter defends the legality of reposting clips/quotes under fair use.
  • He claims prior copyright strikes associated with Virtue were fraudulent and that his work is criticism/commentary/analysis/teaching.
  • He argues that copyright claims filed in bad faith can amount to perjury, and he urges viewers not to be swayed by the strikes.

2) Core thesis: Virtue’s “Jesus visitation” remains the same, but her theology shifts to avoid consequences

The main claim is that Virtue’s account of a January 7, 2017 encounter with Jesus persists through multiple iterations, while her language changes in ways that look like damage control.

The video highlights discrepancies such as:

  • Jesus described as “six feet tall” at one point, versus “humongous” later
  • Jesus being described as “in front of her” at one time versus “far away” later
  • Whether the event is described as personal, not personal, or as a “glimpse/veil lifted”

The presenter argues these shifts undermine her reliability and suggest she is reconciling competing theological pressures rather than correcting an originally false claim.

3) Chronology used as evidence of “waffling”

The video presents a timeline intended to show that Virtue’s position changes after the presenter’s May 5, 2020 video and ongoing controversy.

  • Earlier period: Virtue repeatedly describes the encounter as “beyond real,” involving a real, living, breathing Jesus, with vivid physical/light sensations and “realizations/epiphanies.”
  • May 10 (per the speaker): Virtue allegedly says the experience is unbiblical and “likely” demonic impersonation, while still using odd wording that could still imply Jesus.
  • Days later: Virtue allegedly moves to “neutral,” stating she doesn’t know whether it was demon or Jesus and that she will decide in heaven.
  • June 21 (per the speaker): Virtue frames the controversy as a blessing and claims her calling/“calling out” led to reflection and reconsideration.

The presenter treats this pattern as evidence that her testimony is being preserved for publication and reputation rather than being clearly repudiated.

4) The “open canon” argument (dreams/visions as ongoing revelation)

The speaker argues Virtue’s story involves what he characterizes as “divine revelations,” which—if accepted—amounts to an “open canon” mindset.

  • The video contrasts this with cessationist theology attributed to Justin Peters (and others), namely that God does not speak through dreams/visions today.
  • The video claims Peters’ ministry is inconsistent if Peters’ affiliates endorse Virtue’s book containing these claims.

5) Book marketing as the decisive motive (publish/sell despite earlier “unbiblical” statements)

A major accusation is that Virtue’s new book (Deceived No More, released July 28, 2020) contains multiple pages discussing “When Jesus Changed My Life,” effectively re-presenting the same “visit/vision” account.

The presenter argues:

  • Virtue removed earlier testimony from public sites (e.g., “Joy of Jesus” and other website statements), claiming it was confusing/stumbling
  • Yet the same content appears in the book she is marketing

He portrays this as hypocrisy: removing testimony publicly while publishing it for mass distribution.

6) Endorsements from prominent figures—presented as contradictions

The video claims multiple close allies of Justin Peters endorse the book, which (in the presenter’s view) undermines Peters’ cessationist critique of dreams/visions, including alleged endorsements by:

  • Brandon Kimber
  • Michelle Leslie
  • Ray Comfort
  • Kosty Hinn

It also references additional “friends/partners” and ties to a radio/video network.

The presenter frames these endorsements as “damage control” intended to mute the “demonic/false revelation” critique in order to protect reputations and alliances.

7) “Damage control round two”: Peters sharing/endorsing more content after the controversy

After the presenter emails Justin Peters regarding the book and endorsements, the video claims Peters (and associates) rapidly publish or share additional material addressing dreams/visions.

The presenter particularly highlights an article/video connected to Kosty Hinn about how to view dreams/visions claims, portraying it as a theological maneuver that still leaves Peters “trapped” between opposing positions.

8) Aggressive critique of the “fruit of the Spirit” and messenger-attack strategy

The presenter argues that when confronted with his allegations, Peters and allies respond by attacking him personally—rather than addressing the underlying doctrinal issue.

  • He contrasts what he presents as lack of kindness and self-control in their rhetoric with spiritual standards associated with the “fruit of the Spirit.”

9) Concluding appeals and allegations of responsibility

The video ends with calls for public denouncements or retractions:

  • The presenter pressures Justin Peters and the endorsement figures to explain their endorsements or retract them.
  • He interprets refusals to do so as evidence of lack of integrity and prioritization of network/reputation over truth.
  • He also calls on viewers to contact the publisher (HarperCollins, via contact channels mentioned in the video) to express concern about marketing the book.

Presenters / contributors mentioned

  • Joshua Chavez (main speaker/presenter)
  • Justin Peters
  • Doreen Virtue
  • Phil Johnson
  • Kosty Hinn
  • Ray Comfort
  • Brandon Kimber
  • Michelle Leslie
  • Chris Rosebrough (noted as spelled variably in subtitles; presented as the same person)
  • David Guzik
  • Warren Smith
  • Todd Friel
  • Jacob Prash
  • Dwayne Atkinson (mentioned in passing as an interview participant)

Suspected other sources referenced

  • Tom Doyle
  • Ministry Top/Taught Ministries (quoted/analyzed within the video)
  • Other authors/pastors referenced generally by name in passing (some appear possibly misspelled or referenced indirectly; e.g., “Jacob rash” likely relates to Jacob Prash).

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