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Wie lange können ETFs noch so weiter steigen?

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Finance

Finance-focused summary (ETFs long-term returns outlook)

Core question / framing

  • The video examines whether broad, globally diversified equity ETFs can realistically keep compounding their historical returns for another ~20–40 years (typical retirement/investing horizons).
  • It highlights the tension between:
    • Assuming future returns based on historical performance (e.g., “6–9% per year or more” average), versus
    • The possibility that returns may not stay that high indefinitely.

Disclaimers

  • “Not investment advice.”
  • “Personal research.”
  • Mentions a recommended broker (Scalable Capital) as part of setting up an ETF savings plan.

Tickers / assets / instruments mentioned

  • MSIR World (referenced as having strong performance over ~50 years)
  • Fortune 500 Index (used as an example of company turnover over time)
  • Global equity ETFs (broad market ETFs; not specified by ticker/ISIN)
  • M2 Money Supply (macro indicator; not a tradable ticker)
  • ECB inflation target: 2%
  • Invidia (likely a reference to NVIDIA; no ticker given)
  • Gold
  • Bitcoin
  • Farmland
  • Real estate
  • “Cayian” (unclear/possibly mis-transcribed; presented as an alternative asset)
  • US dollars (referenced via “Global M2… in US dollars converted into currency”)

Key numbers / performance assumptions / targets

  • Assumed long-run equity/ETF average return: ~6–9% per year (or more)
  • Time horizon discussed: ~20, 30, up to 40 years
  • ECB inflation target: 2% per year
  • Population numbers:
    • ~3 billion (around 1950)
    • >8 billion today
    • >10 billion by ~2100, then potentially downturn risk
  • Fertility-rate context:
    • Many major economies reported as below 2 births per woman
  • “Lower returns in the future” scenario:
    • Possible future equity returns: 4–5% to 6% (instead of 7–9%)

Macro / market arguments supporting long-run ETF growth

1) Inflation + monetary system mechanics

  • Claims global money supply (Global M2) is rising, citing significant money printing during the “Corona” period.
  • Mechanism described:
    • More money in circulation → purchasing power declines (inflation)
    • Companies face higher costs (wages, raw materials) → pass-through to prices → rising sales/profits
    • Therefore: rising inflation is argued to align with rising nominal company value / stock indices.
  • Also notes inflation devalues national debt, making debt burdens easier to manage.
  • Conclusion implied: if monetary/inflation dynamics persist, stocks/ETFs may continue to rise.

2) Consumption and prosperity catch-up

  • Argues demand grows as more people in emerging economies reach Western-like consumption levels.
  • Examples:
    • China: increasing luxury/consumer purchasing power
    • India: progressing toward higher consumption (though “needs some time”)
  • Claim: provides structural tailwinds for decades.

3) Population growth (with a caveat)

  • Population growth cited as supporting global economic expansion:
    • ~3B (1950) → >8B → projected >10B by 2100
  • Caveat:
    • Fertility rates declining below replacement level in countries including Japan, USA, Europe, India
    • Some forecasts suggest population growth may slow and potentially reverse after 2100
  • Takeaway for investors:
    • Even if longer-term dynamics deteriorate, the near/mid-term (next 20–50/70 years) may still benefit.

4) Innovation/technology

  • Argues technological progress (explicitly AI and robotics) can increase output and efficiency, supporting continued prosperity even with resource constraints.
  • Mentions recycling as an add-on mitigating resource scarcity.

Risks / counterarguments raised

  • “Glass ceiling” idea:
    • Consumption may top out when much of the world already owns similar goods (e.g., house/car/mobile/food/holidays).
  • Finite resources vs infinite growth:
    • Rebuttal relies on technology improving output per input and recycling.
  • Returns compression risk (valuation/crowding):
    • If many investors chase stocks/ETFs, required returns may fall.
    • Therefore expected future returns could be lower than 7–9%, potentially 4–5% to 6%.

Methodology / framework mentioned (conceptual)

Using historical return assumptions for ETF planning (and questioning it)

  • Start with historically strong ETF returns.
  • Assume continued averages (stated ~6–9% p.a. or more), while acknowledging returns are not linear year-by-year.
  • Question:
    • Whether projecting those averages into the future is realistic for 20–40 years.

“Does growth matter?” valuation-by-cash-flow logic (farm example)

  • Framework illustrated using a farm analogy:
    • Company value can increase via:
      • Revenue growth (more customers → more sales)
      • Productivity/cost reduction (e.g., labor-saving machine)
      • Share buybacks / share count reduction even when revenue growth is zero
  • Key idea:
    • Even with zero GDP/company growth, shareholders can still gain through profits distributed and/or buybacks improving per-share metrics.

Risk/return “financial science perspective”

  • Principle stated: “Return comes from risk.”
  • If expected stock returns fall too much:
    • Less capital is allocated to companies
    • Investors demand higher returns again
    • Returns may rebalance toward levels consistent with taking risk
  • Opposite effect noted:
    • If many investors (or too much capital) increases, returns may compress.

Explicit recommendations / cautions

  • ETF investing positioned as one of the few suitable long-term “parking” alternatives based on historical performance; ETF savings plans are described as easy to start (example includes a broker).
  • Caution:
    • Future returns may be lower than historical averages (possible drop to ~4–6% range).
    • The video argues that if stock returns become much worse, then other assets (gold, bonds) may also fail in extreme/system-wide scenarios.

Asset-allocation note (alternatives mentioned)

  • Suggests that investors seeking to hedge against a “doom/system crash” may diversify into:
    • Gold, Bitcoin, farmland, real estate, and “Cayian” (unclear transcription)

Presenters / sources

  • Presenter: “Your financial bear” (channel persona; no real name given)
  • Source references used: ECB (inflation target), UN (population forecasts), plus market indices mentioned (Fortune 500 Index, “MSIR World”)

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