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Will Rising Long Term Rates Crash Stocks?
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Key macro/market setup (rates → stocks)
Rising long-term interest rates
- Long-term interest rates are rising, with the US 10-year Treasury yield approaching ~5%.
- The discussion suggests it could reach 5% “very soon”, while also flagging risk if it moves to 5.5% or higher.
- The speaker links recent pressure on the 10Y yield to:
- Inflation
- War/oil prices
Framework: what drives the 10-year (“long rate”)
The speaker’s rough rule-of-thumb:
- 10-year Treasury yield is driven by:
- Inflation
- Real GDP growth
Example given:
- CPI headline inflation ~3.4%
- Real GDP ~1.5%
- Rough implied total: ~4.9% (“where we are right now”)
Control mechanism:
- The Fed controls the short-term rate (fed funds), but cannot directly control long-term yields.
- Long rates are influenced by Treasury supply/demand.
How rising 10Y yields affect equities (2 transmission channels)
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Higher borrowing costs (interest expense)
- More debt ⇒ higher interest expense ⇒ profits decline ⇒ intrinsic value declines
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Higher discount rate for future cash flows
- Intrinsic value is the present value of future cash flows, discounted using a rate linked to the 10Y yield
- Hurt most: unprofitable / growth companies whose cash flows arrive farther in the future
- Less hurt: already profitable, cash-generating companies
Are today’s yields “high”? (historical context)
The claim:
- A ~5% 10Y yield is framed as normal/average, not panic territory.
Historical context (since 1950; 76 years):
- Highest: 1981 ~15.6%
- Lowest: 2020 (COVID) ~0.7%
- Average (mean): ~5.52%
- Median: ~4.72%
Conclusion:
- At ~5%, yields are just below the long-run mean and not historically extreme.
What matters more: the speed and cause of yield increases
The speaker emphasizes that markets react to:
- Speed of the rise
- Why yields are rising
Interpretations given:
- If yields rise due to inflation while earnings are flat/declining ⇒ possible correction/bear market
- If yields rise alongside strong earnings growth ⇒ stocks can still rise even as yields rise
Portfolio positioning framework (as stated)
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Don’t predict rates/markets
- Even the Fed and investors can’t reliably forecast the long rate.
- Example: expectations of multiple rate cuts (3–4 times) that ultimately did not occur, with narrative shifting toward rising rates.
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Build a “resilient/bulletproof” portfolio
- Use diversification to avoid being dominated by the most rate-sensitive segments.
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Tilt allocation based on rate sensitivity
- Reduce exposure to categories likely to be hurt most by higher long rates
- Add/maintain exposure to categories positioned as benefits/neutral to higher long rates
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Hedge within the portfolio
- Example: holding REITs while also holding banks (beneficiaries) to help offset drawdowns
Stocks/sectors most at risk from rising long-term rates
1) Unprofitable growth / emerging tech (discount-rate sensitive)
Why:
- Future cash flows get discounted more when yields rise.
Examples mentioned (explicitly described as “not making money”):
- Snowflake (SNOW)
- Cloudflare (NE)
- IonQ (IONQ) (quantum computing)
2) REITs and utility companies (financing/interest expense sensitivity)
Why:
- Heavy borrowing ⇒ higher interest expense ⇒ lower dividends and share prices.
Evidence mentioned:
- “Many REITs have been coming down” as long rates rise.
Speaker’s disclosure/hedge:
- They own Singapore REITs (dividend portfolio)
- They claim the portfolio is supported because it’s hedged by Singapore banks
- Caution: holding “all REITs” is described as a recipe for downside
3) Highly leveraged cyclicals (debt + business cycle risk)
Examples / categories mentioned:
- Airlines
- Telos (exact reference unclear; likely a ticker/name typo)
- Commodity/property developers (commodities mentioned separately as well)
- Cable companies
Common thread:
- High leverage + cyclical earnings ⇒ rising rates increase interest burden and compress income.
Stocks/sectors that benefit from higher rates (or are “more immune”)
1) Banks and insurance companies
Thesis:
- Banks benefit via higher net interest margin (NIM) as long rates rise
- Insurers benefit because they can invest float at higher yields
Examples/tickers mentioned:
- Singapore banks: DBS, UOB, OCBC (spoken as “DBS, OB, OCBC” — “OB” likely means UOB)
- Arch Capital (ACGL) (insurance)
- “Alliance” (life insurer) mentioned as listed on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange (ticker not provided)
2) Cash-rich mega caps (net interest expense offset by cash/investments)
Thesis:
- Even if they take on some debt, they have enough cash/equivalents earning interest income to offset interest expense.
Examples mentioned:
- Apple (AAPL)
- Meta (META)
- Google (GOOGL/GOOG referenced)
- Microsoft (MSFT)
3) Energy/commodity companies (benefit when rates rise with inflation)
Thesis:
- In inflationary / rising-rate regimes, energy and commodities can perform well.
Additional notes from the speaker:
- They don’t invest heavily long-term in energy here due to relative underperformance vs S&P and high volatility.
- Drivers mentioned: oil, natural gas, copper
4) Short-duration value / mature profitable firms (less duration sensitivity)
Thesis:
- If companies are already highly profitable, rising discount rates matter less for valuation.
Examples mentioned:
- Linde (LIN) (also written as “Lind plc”)
- Mastercard (MA)
- Visa (V)
- Motorola (ticker not provided)
- Intercontinental Exchange (ICE), highlighted as benefiting from:
- Margin interest income when rates rise
- Higher trading activity in energy futures
Key numbers and performance comparisons used in the argument
10Y yield levels and thresholds discussed
- Example framework target: ~4.9%
- Current discussion point: ~5% (“touching”)
- Concern threshold discussed: 5.5% and higher
- Potential further risk: “up to 6/7/8/9% could be a problem” (framed hypothetically)
Historical extremes
- 1981: ~15.6%
- 2020: ~0.7%
Historical averages
- Mean: ~5.52%
- Median: ~4.72%
Decade-level examples (10Y yield vs S&P 500 returns)
- 1950s: avg 10Y 3.2%; S&P annualized ~19%
- 1960s: avg 10Y 4.7%; S&P annualized ~7.8%
- 1970s: avg 10Y 7.5%; S&P annualized ~5.9% (described as “really high”)
- 1980s: avg 10Y 10.6%; S&P annualized ~17%
- 2000s (lost decade): avg 10Y 4.5%; S&P negative/flat over 10 years (framed as “lost decade”)
- 2020s (as of mid/early): avg 10Y ~3.1%; S&P 500 annual return mentioned ~15.5% for “first 6 years” (context/year clarity is mixed in the source text)
“Lost decade” dispersion claim
- Even when the S&P went nowhere, “top 1%” companies did well.
- Extreme examples cited (with the caveat that the speaker is not claiming the same exact names will repeat):
- “Monster” +18,000%
- Tesco +3,900%
- Autod+1,400% (text garbled; likely “AutoZone” but unclear)
- TJX +1,100%
- United Health +690%
- Starbucks +587%
Instruments/tickers/sectors explicitly mentioned
Macro/market instruments
- US 10-year Treasury yield (10Y)
- US CPI (headline)
- S&P 500
- Federal Reserve (fed funds rate)
Equity examples (tickers / companies)
- Snowflake (SNOW)
- Cloudflare (NE)
- IonQ (IONQ)
- DBS, UOB, OCBC (Singapore banks; partially formatted in text)
- Arch Capital (ACGL)
- “Alliance” (life insurer; ticker not provided)
- Apple (AAPL)
- Meta (META)
- Google (GOOGL/GOOG referenced)
- Microsoft (MSFT)
- Linde (LIN) (also written as “Lind plc”)
- Mastercard (MA)
- Visa (V)
- Motorola (ticker not provided)
- Intercontinental Exchange (ICE)
- Categories mentioned (tickers not specified): emerging tech, telos (unclear), cable companies, property developers, airlines
Sectors
- Emerging tech / unprofitable growth
- REITs
- Utilities
- Highly leveraged cyclicals
- Banks
- Insurance
- Cash-rich mega caps / mega-cap tech
- Energy / commodities
- Short-duration value
Commodities (drivers)
- Oil
- Natural gas
- Copper
- Energy futures trading discussed (via ICE)
Disclosures / disclaimers
- No explicit “not financial advice” disclaimer appears in the provided subtitles text.
- The speaker frames views as investing education and references personal holdings (e.g., “I do own…”), but no formal regulatory disclaimer is included in the provided summary.
Presenters / sources
- Presenter: Adam Coup
- Other external sources are not explicitly named beyond general references to CPI, S&P 500, and “financial websites” (including a tool mentioned as “Stock Oracle”).
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