A powerful interview with my sister, Apostle Kathryn Krick

Summary of the Video

The episode is framed as a discussion/podcast between Apostle Kathryn Krick and minister John Ramirez, centered on John Ramirez’s testimony of long-term involvement in demon worship/occult practice and his later deliverance and salvation through Jesus Christ. The conversation then expands into ministry commentary on deliverance, spiritual warfare, and unity in the church.

1) John Ramirez’s testimony: occult life → confrontation → salvation

John describes being raised and then spiritually involved in witchcraft/warlock activity from a young age, claiming a “bloodline” of witchcraft from Puerto Rico and influence across generations. He says he was drafted into occult ceremonies for decades and claims extensive occult authority, including:

• Astral projection (being “escorted by a demon” to curse regions/neighborhoods)
• Contracts with demons and “spiritual courts” (described as contractual agreements between demons and humans)
• Possessing “marks” from initiation rituals and having a large collection of occult items in his home

He recounts moments where he believes demonic power failed when believers used spiritual warfare more effectively than he expected (e.g., Christians “locking hands” and preventing curses from penetrating).

A major turning point occurs during an incident where, he says, the devil demanded he “sacrifice” someone (a man hiding in his hallway). He describes being unable to complete the act due to spiritual interruption/constraints and claims the devil “escaped.”

He then describes hearing what he interprets as God’s voice, visions of “the sky on fire,” and subsequent experiences during church:

• An altar call that triggers conflict with his demonic presence
• A period of depression and suicidal intent that he interprets as demonic pressure
• A near-death/hell-like experience, followed by “resurrection” back into his body and a decision to follow Jesus

He claims that after coming to Christ, there was a 30-day period of intense torment until, as he says, Jesus’ name caused the torment to cease—after which he began serving God for decades.

2) Deliverance vs. “religion”: how the conversation interprets spiritual power

The hosts repeatedly argue that the devil’s strategy is not merely “evil acts,” but division, pride, religious spirit, jealousy, and condemnation inside Christianity.

They assert that many modern churches/ministers:

• either avoid deliverance (because it threatens reputation/comfort),
• or discourage it due to fear and unfamiliarity (“we’ve never seen this before”).

John specifically claims:

• Deliverance is portrayed as a “threat” to the devil because it breaks oppression rather than managing it.
• The enemy prefers believers to remain under depression/anxiety/oppression and to treat it passively (his metaphor: people going back to “refills” rather than casting demons out).

3) Core message: unity, humility, and accurate discernment online

A major theme is that social media “exposure videos” can be dangerous when motivated by envy, profit, or pride rather than truth.

They differentiate (as they frame it) between:

• legitimate identification/exposure of wrongdoing, and
• false accusations where people lack fear of God and discernment.

John argues that “witch hunter” culture often runs on:

• unproven claims,
• labels (“she’s a witch,” “not an apostle,” etc.) without verification by spiritual discernment,
• and bandwagon behavior that spreads “counterfeit reality.”

They insist that discernment requires both biblical grounding and “fruit,” and they emphasize restoring brothers/sisters gently rather than humiliating them.

4) Ministry philosophy: authority comes from loyalty, not blood sacrifice

In response to Hollywood-style occult narratives, John says that occult “sacrifice” is not what grants power in a simple way.

He argues that “authority” in Christ is tied to:

• dedication,
• time with Jesus,
• loyalty to the calling,
• and serving out of love rather than obligation.

They present Jesus as the true model of authority and contrast it with demonic manipulation, which demands loyalty to itself.

5) Unity across cultures and churches

Kathryn and John discuss “God moments” involving cultural blending in worship. For example, Kathryn describes receiving prophetic calling in a Hispanic church with a multiethnic environment.

They argue that racism/ethnocentrism is a spiritual hindrance and that God can use “weak/foolish” vessels and unfamiliar cultural spaces to deliver revelation and destiny.

6) Call to action near the end

The episode ends with exhortation to listeners to:

• repent of pride/jealousy/comparing,
• renounce harmful lies,
• seek humility and “fear of God,”
• and embrace deliverance readiness in churches so revival-era salvations can also lead to deliverance.

Presenters / Contributors

• Apostle Kathryn Krick
• John Ramirez