ЭТОГО ВАМ НЕ РАССКАЖУТ! 5 жестких претензий к АСД ⚠️ | Программа "Сион" / "Zion" program.

Overview

The video is a moderated discussion (Zion program) between two Seventh-day Adventists with differing backgrounds and positions. The presenters debate several “hard claims” about the Seventh-day Adventist Church, aiming to compare arguments against Scripture and Gospel principles, and to assess whether Adventist church practice is biblical, just, and spiritually sound.

1) Church organization and whether it is “biblical”

Stepan Boyko’s position

Stepan argues that Adventist church governance lacks biblical equality and violates a model like Moses organizing God’s people by prayer and delegation (Exodus). He claims local congregations are:

• “Deprived of freedom of choice and justice”
  • local communities do not truly elect pastors;
  • pastors/leadership are sent by higher structures;
  • tithe and church financial power flow upward (to conference/union/division/general conference).

Sergey Solodukhin’s position

Sergey defends the Adventist structure as workable and orderly, describing the system as:

• local church → conference → union → division → General Conference

He argues that hierarchy can be “biblical” in function if leaders are honest.

Partial agreement

They partially agree that the debate should be evaluated by Scripture and practical outcomes, not slogans.

2) Equality of roles: pastors vs elders; “justice” in church service

A major point of tension is whether Adventist role structure is fair and whether it matches Gospel/Acts practice.

Stepan’s argument

Stepan says there is injustice between roles:

• pastors are salaried and sent by higher levels;
• local elders/presbyters serve without comparable pay;
• this creates inequality and makes local leadership dependent on conference finances.

Sergey’s argument

Sergey argues the system can be normal and functional:

• New Testament patterns show local church leadership is ordained and service is distributed.
• elders can perform pastoral functions when a pastor covers multiple communities.

Additional disputes

They also dispute:

• marriage/ordination practices and which biblical offices have authority.
• Sergey stresses he does not see the issue as solved by Stepan’s interpretation.
• Stepan frames the power dynamics as intentional control.

3) Claims regarding Ellen (Elena) White

This is one of the longest and sharpest sections.

Stepan’s claims

Stepan argues that Ellen White is treated by many Adventists as “higher than Old Testament prophets,” and he further claims:

• White contained factual/ethical errors (examples cited about prophecy/timing and dietary matters);
• her works were allegedly edited from multiple sources, possibly involving plagiarism/borrowing (he describes editorial apparatus and disputes originality);
• Adventists sometimes encourage people to prefer White’s statements over direct Scripture.

Sergey’s defense

Sergey responds that:

• Adventist views vary; some do not accept her works fully.
• the Bible is primary, and White is not placed at the same level as Scripture.
• White called herself not a “prophetess” in the sense of self-claim, but a messenger.
• her writings are treated as guidance rather than replacing Scripture.

Outcome

The exchange ends without complete resolution. Both parties acknowledge controversy but disagree about its spiritual and doctrinal meaning.

4) Tithes and donations (financial system)

Sergey’s defense

Sergey portrays tithing and offerings as biblical continuity (Old Testament → New Testament), as:

• voluntary-to-practical financial support for ministry, institutions, and charity
• an expression of sacrifice and gratitude to God

Stepan’s critique

Stepan argues Adventist tithe distribution does not align with biblical purposes (Levite/orphan/stranger/widow):

• tithe is routed through higher administrative bodies first, so local congregations lose control;
• many stated tithe purposes (institutions, pastoral salaries, etc.) are not the intended biblical allocation;
• he uses Deuteronomy/Levitical tithing to argue for different categories and destinations than Adventist practice.

“Second tithe” debate

They dispute whether what Adventists call “second tithe” is truly voluntary and biblically justified.

Sergey’s added moral concern

Sergey raises a “fairness” concern:

If “God’s money” is misdirected (even unintentionally), the giver’s responsibility is harmed, and the poor/recipients may not receive what they should.

5) Adventist relationship with the state and politics/war

This section is the most politically intense.

Stepan’s allegations

Stepan alleges Adventist leadership historically adapted to oppressive regimes (including USSR-era structures such as KGB-era collaboration) and continues to cooperate with governments today in ways he views as sinful or compromising. He argues it may include:

• cooperation with both sides during the Ukraine war;
• possibly legitimizing violence through church leadership actions.

Sergey’s response

Sergey argues:

• it is wrong to judge individuals’ motives without personal interaction;
• the church’s mission is primarily spiritual;
• believers should rely on lawful citizenship and prayer for peace, based on a claim of “neutrality.”

Clashing definitions of “neutrality”

They disagree on what neutrality means:

• Stepan: neutrality is compromised when church leaders bless sending soldiers, attend state-linked events, or cooperate with power.
• Sergey: neutrality means not participating in war while maintaining lawful civic life.

They also discuss Adventist stances on violence (refusal to kill, not taking oaths, history of state pressure), but remain far apart in interpretation.

6) Proper Christian handling of pastor/leadership errors

Sergey’s scriptural process

Sergey proposes a Gospel-style approach:

• address wrongdoing privately first;
• follow correction sequentially;
• avoid public condemnation unless necessary.

Stepan’s additional framing

Stepan emphasizes correction with love and warns that:

• ignoring wrongdoing is worse than raising it for accountability.

They imply disagreements should be handled through proper channels, but they differ on the role of public debate.

7) Old Testament holidays, New Testament relevance, and “why celebrate?”

Sergey’s view

Sergey argues holidays are not central to salvation and that:

• obedience to God matters more.

He uses a “two persons” analogy:

• one person keeps commandments,
• another focuses on holidays.

Stepan’s view

Stepan argues holidays correspond to redemption events, especially those linked to death/resurrection observances (including Saturday and the communion schedule). He sees typology as meaningful in Christian worship.

Partial common ground

They end with limited agreement that celebration is acceptable if it:

• does not contradict God’s commandments;
• is Christ-centered.

Conclusions / overall tone

• Both sides present the Adventist Church as a subject that should be evaluated critically against Scripture.
• Common ground: Scripture is primary; unity and a “dialogue with love” are preferred over hatred; doctrinal disagreement should not devolve into personal attacks alone.
• Unresolved disputes: biblical legitimacy of Adventist governance, Ellen White’s authority, tithe distribution, and state/war “neutrality.”

Presenters / Contributors

• Stepan Boyko
• Sergey Solodukhin