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Elite Trader: Managing $25 Million at Just 25 Years Old - Ted Zhang
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Elite Trader: Managing $25 Million at Just 25 Years Old - Ted Zhang
Background & Asset Management
Ted Zhang manages $20-25 million personally and co-manages at River Asset Management, which oversees approximately $400 million in assets under management (AUM). The firm primarily focuses on:
- Downside protection and growth
- Managing mostly retirement accounts (Roth IRAs, 401ks)
- Restrictions on leverage and shorting; uses inverse ETFs instead of shorting individual stocks
Ted and his co-manager Connor began as interns, trading their own money before managing client capital. River Asset Management offers two main portfolios:
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Growction:
- Represents ~90% of AUM
- Aims to match S&P 500 returns with lower drawdowns and risk
- Maximum position size: 8%
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Turboction:
- Represents ~10% of AUM
- More aggressive, aiming to beat the market
- Position sizes up to 12.5%
Minimum investment per strategy is $100,000. The firm is closing Growction near $400M to launch a new mega-cap and ETF-focused portfolio.
Trading Strategy & Methodology
Ted emphasizes growth-oriented momentum trading, influenced by William O’Neal’s CAN SLIM system but with modifications.
CAN SLIM Acronym
- C: Current earnings/revenue growth (targeting double to triple-digit growth)
- A: Annual earnings and Return on Equity
- N: New product, management, or unique business aspect
- S: Supply and demand (price and volume analysis)
- L: Leader stocks showing relative strength and base-building
- I: Institutional ownership (accumulation)
- M: Market direction (75% of stocks follow the general market)
Ted’s Adaptation: “Super Stock Criteria” or “Magic Elixir”
- High liquidity and Average Daily Range (ADR) for smoother price action
- Linear price movement (avoiding volatile roller coaster stocks)
- Hot theme or catalyst (fundamentals optional for some trades, e.g., crypto)
Trading Universe
- Sectors: Tech, healthcare, biotech, crypto, gold, silver
- Focus: Primarily growth names
- Crypto trades in late 2024 included Bitcoin, Ethereum, MicroStrategy (MSTR)
- Entry approach: Avoid trading during extreme price extensions or chasing late breakouts; prefer pullbacks or after bases form
Risk Management & Position Sizing
Risk management is the most critical layer beyond technical analysis:
- Use position sizing and progressive exposure: increase exposure when the strategy works, pull back when it doesn’t
- Employ stop losses and trailing stops primarily at 21-day and 50-day moving averages
- Trim positions into strength at ATR (Average True Range) extensions:
- 3-4 ATR above 21 EMA
- 8-10 ATR above 50-day SMA
- Avoid revenge trading or increasing size after losses
- Drawdowns typically capped below 15% in Growction, significantly lower than S&P 500 drawdowns (30-50%)
Market & Macro Views
- Market cycles are driven by human psychology and supply-demand laws, which remain constant over time
- Current market (as of Nov 2024) viewed as a bull market since early 2023 with signs of a healthy correction/pullback
- AI bubble narrative approached with caution:
- Strong hype but fundamental ROI yet to be proven
- Bubbles can last longer than expected
- Fed easing reduces risk of bubble bursting due to rate hikes
- Uses moving averages (21, 50, 200-day) and market breadth indicators to assess market health and timing
- Prefers trend following over mean reversion or scalping
- Recognizes distinct phases for growing assets versus protecting capital, adjusting portfolios accordingly
Portfolio Construction & Client Management
- Clients typically hold diversified allocations between Growction and Turboction based on age, risk tolerance, and goals
- Average holding period: weeks to a few months; rarely long-term capital gains
- Focus on intermediate-term swing trades with trend-following methodology
- Managing clients’ money involves managing their emotions and expectations, not just executing trades
- Daily team calls (morning and afternoon) cover market news, economic data, upgrades/downgrades, and trading ideas
Historical & Educational Foundations
Ted emphasizes learning from classic trading and investing literature:
- How to Make Money in Stocks by William O’Neal (CAN SLIM)
- Reminiscences of a Stock Operator by Jesse Livermore
- Market Wizards by Jack Schwager
- Stan Weinstein’s Stage Analysis
- Books by Mark Minervini, Howard Marks, Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett
Learning is layered:
- Technical analysis
- Risk management
- Market environment awareness
No shortcuts to mastery; requires 5-10 years of persistent learning, failure, and adaptation. Ted advocates building a personal brand and network (used social media DM outreach to land his asset management role) and forming or joining trading pods/communities for accountability and idea sharing.
Technical Tools & Processes
- Technical indicators used:
- 21 EMA, 50-day SMA, 200-day SMA for trend identification and exit signals
- ATR for measuring price extensions and trimming positions
- AI tools like ChatGPT and Perplexity help quickly summarize company fundamentals, news, and catalysts
- Platforms: Market Surge and Trader Lion for sector and momentum scanning
- Applies Stan Weinstein’s Stage Analysis to identify price cycle stages:
- Stage 1: Base/basing phase (sideways)
- Stage 2: Uptrend (ideal to buy)
- Stage 3: Top/topping phase (avoid trading)
- Stage 4: Downtrend (short or avoid)
- Prefers simple, proven methods over chasing new or complex strategies
Psychological & Lifestyle Insights
- Trading combines competition, strategy, and psychology, similar to sports and video games
- Daily routines include meditation (12-15 mins), journaling, gratitude practice, inspired by stoic philosophy
- Uses Atomic Habits by James Clear to build discipline and habit formation
- Emphasizes self-awareness and emotional management as critical to trading success
- Personal challenges (loss of father, health issues) impacted discipline but reinforced the importance of balance and mental health
- Faith and belief in a bigger purpose help manage ego and stress
Performance & Drawdowns
- Early success trading SPACs with asymmetric risk/reward, but suffered a 50-60% drawdown, leading to a hiatus and re-evaluation
- Current portfolios aim for max drawdowns <15% vs. S&P 500 drawdowns of 30-50%
- Avoiding large drawdowns is key to long-term compounding
- Focus on consistent inputs and disciplined execution to enable reliable performance measurement and improvement
Explicit Recommendations & Cautions
- Avoid chasing extended moves or late breakouts; wait for pullbacks and base formations
- Never increase position size during losing streaks or emotional distress
- Master one strategy rather than mixing multiple conflicting strategies
- Use trailing stops and trim into strength to protect profits
- Study history and timeless principles rather than chasing new trends blindly
- Build a trading community or pod for support and shared learning
- Trading mastery takes years; no shortcuts
- Use technology and AI tools to enhance research efficiency
- Manage client emotions actively when handling others’ money
- Stay adaptable but disciplined; recognize when your edge is in or out of favor
- Avoid mean reversion or bottom fishing during strong downtrends; trend following requires patience
Mentioned Tickers, Assets, Sectors & Instruments
- SPACs: VTIQ (merged with Nikola), CCIV (Lucid), IPOA, IPOB, IPOC (Chimath’s alphabet SPACs)
- Stocks: Nvidia (NVDA), SMCI, MSTR (MicroStrategy), NUVB, GH, Palantir, BE, Olo, LEU, SMR, RGTI, InoQ, Grail
- Crypto: Bitcoin (BTC), Ethereum (ETH)
- ETFs: Inverse ETFs for shorting (due to restrictions on shorting individual stocks)
- Indices: S&P 500, NASDAQ
- Other sectors: Gold, Silver, Healthcare, Pharma, Biotech
Methodology / Framework Highlights
- CAN SLIM (William O’Neal) for stock selection
- Stan Weinstein’s Stage Analysis for market cycle and timing
- Trend following using 21 EMA, 50 SMA, 200 SMA for entry/exit and trend confirmation
- Risk management layers:
- Position sizing
- Stop losses
- Trailing stops (21 EMA, 50 SMA)
- Exposure scaling based on market conditions
- Theme identification:
- Top-down sector ETF analysis
- Bottom-up stock and catalyst analysis
- Use of AI tools for rapid fundamental and news analysis
- Follow smart money and thought leaders for early theme signals
- Trading pod formation:
- Identify your trading style and goals
- Use social media and communities to find aligned traders
- Share ideas and hold each other accountable
Disclaimers & Disclosures
- Ted Zhang is not a financial advisor; insights are based on personal experience
- No guarantee that strategies will work 100% of the time
- Emphasis on risk management to avoid large losses
- Minimum investment thresholds apply for their managed portfolios
- Past performance does not guarantee future results
- Use of AI tools and social media is a personal choice; not financial advice
Presenters & Sources
- Ted Zhang – Trader and co-portfolio manager at River Asset Management
- Russ – Host of Words of Wisdom podcast
Mentioned Influences/Mentors:
- William O’Neal (CAN SLIM author)
- Stanley Weinstein (Stage Analysis)
- Jack Schwager (Market Wizards)
- Mark Minervini
- Howard Marks, Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett
- Stanley Druckenmiller (hedge fund legend)
- Ray Dalio (meditation inspiration)
- Trader Lion (Richard, Ross Haber)
- Andrej Karpathy (AI expert referenced)
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