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11th Edition Returning Primarchs?! GW Answers the Question...My thoughts
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Overview
The video discusses Games Workshop’s handling of Primarch returns in Warhammer 40,000 and argues that 11th edition will bring more Primarch model/story releases, continuing a pattern that’s been visible since the end of 7th edition.
Main arguments and commentary
Repeated pattern since 7th edition
- The presenter claims Primarchs have returned every edition, sometimes two in one edition.
- This averages to roughly one Primarch return every ~1.5 years.
- Based on that history, they believe 11th edition will include additional Primarch returns.
GW Q&A “twist” (loyalist Primarchs “are all dead”)
- The presenter plays a clip where a Games Workshop representative states that Primarchs are dead—except:
- Lion El’Jonson
- Roboute Guilliman
- The presenter interprets this as likely tongue-in-cheek, arguing that Primarchs are major sellers, making another loyalist return very likely.
Who could return — Loyalists
- Vulkan
- Presented as the most straightforward candidate.
- Plausible fit for interactions with both Lion and Guilliman.
- Also aligns with protecting the Imperium’s population during major threats (e.g., orcs/xenos/monsters).
- Jaghatai Khan
- Another possibility.
- Especially if 11th edition leans into webway-related stories, since Jaghatai is described as the last Primarch associated with entering the webway.
Who could return — Traitors
- “Big four” chaos-linked Primarchs already returned (in some form):
- Magnus
- Mortarion
- Angron
- Fulgrim (latest noted)
- Perturabo (next most likely)
- Suggested based on narrative momentum, including:
- grand campaign developments
- sending forces out of the Eye of Terror
- official attention and artwork
- The presenter characterizes his “return” as already underway in narrative terms.
- Suggested based on narrative momentum, including:
- Lorgar
- Mentioned as plausible due to chaos/rift narrative developments.
- However, the presenter believes Perturabo is more likely first, with a later “domino effect” potentially leading to Corax-related plotting (Corax searching for Lorgar).
Bigger event the presenter expects in 11th edition
- The presenter highlights GW hints that Lion and Guilliman will finally meet in the active narrative timeline.
- They note this is something the community has wanted since:
- Lion returned
- Guilliman took up the Emperor’s sword
- They hope it won’t be limited to a brief codex-style reference.
- They even express a wish for a more substantial treatment—possibly a novel—to deliver the emotional payoff after 10,000 years.
Timing expectations
- Primarch returns, they say, typically happen mid-to-late edition, not at the start (described as a “kick up the ass” rather than an opening move).
- They expect the next return to occur during the edition lifecycle:
- roughly within the next 2–3 years
- framed as “within the next three years,” aligned with how GW tends to pace editions.
Conclusion of the presenter
- The presenter guarantees another Primarch will return in 11th edition.
- They also bet 11th edition will deliver the Lion–Guilliman interaction as a major narrative highlight.
Presenters or contributors
- Video presenter: “Valra” (referred to as “Valra” throughout)
- Games Workshop contributor in the clip:
- Adam (the questioner)
- “Eddie” (the speaker responding, as narrated by the presenter)