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Firms Now Recruit Before 1L Grades | Thinking LSAT, Ep. 577
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Main ideas & lessons
1) What “Crushing 1L” is and why to do it before starting law school
“Crushing 1L” is described as a collection of content designed to prepare students for the start of law school. It covers:
- Foundational law school knowledge, such as:
- An overview of the courts
- How to read cases
- What it’s like in a law school classroom
- Intro doctrinal overviews (high-level coverage of major 1L subjects), including:
- Torts
- Contracts
- Criminal Law
- Civil Procedure
- Property (mentioned as the one not previously listed in the same sentence)
The course is not fully customized to each school’s exact curriculum, but it aims to give a “bird’s eye view” so students understand core concepts earlier.
Why it helps (as argued by the speakers)
- Entering classes with background knowledge makes the material feel less foreign.
- Students spend less time grappling with basic concepts “for the first time” while classes move ahead.
- Law schools are criticized for teaching topics in tiny pieces without providing the overall framework, so pre-learning context helps.
2) Practical plan: expected subscription length & pacing
- Cost: $79/month
- Suggested completion time: a couple months (especially during summer)
- Possibly as fast as one month if someone “speedruns”
- Pacing warning: don’t over-study daily—pace it across the pre-1L period.
- Extra benefit mentioned: the platform may include outlines for some doctrinal courses, useful later in the fall for outlining and connecting concepts.
Where to find pricing/plans
- URL: https://elsatdemon.com/plans
- Plan details described:
- $79/month for Crushing 1L
- $79/month admissions course
- $129 pathway plan bundling admissions + Crushing 1L
- Option to upgrade for one-on-one help (a “pro plan” for essay counseling)
3) Recruiting timeline changes (Harvard) and how it affects 1Ls
The episode discusses law-firm hiring rules shifting earlier for 1Ls, using Harvard Law School as the news example.
Harvard moved the timeline earlier by:
- Private-sector contact: no contact before Sept 28 (was Oct 1)
- Formal applications: no applications before Oct 1 (was Nov 1)
A further described change:
- Employers are asked to refrain from accepting applications until after the conclusion of the first fall semester (for summer job recruiting tied to later cycles).
Claimed impacts
- This “accelerated recruiting process” may reduce or disrupt on-campus recruiting.
- It can create resentment because schools lose control and offers may happen before first-semester grades.
Broader commentary embedded
- Firms may still recruit extremely early (even before students apply), so attempts to control timelines may be partly symbolic.
- The speakers connect this to a bigger theme: gatekeeping and institutional power struggles can conflict with students’ interests—even if the conflict is economically rational while being justified with “academia” language.
4) LSAT/LSAT Demon teaching: a bar-exam-logic question walkthrough (methodology)
The episode includes a detailed LSAT-style weaken-the-argument teaching segment about a law school dean’s proposal to provide bar prep.
Argument being evaluated (paraphrased)
- A dean claims many recent graduates failed the bar exam multiple times, harming reputation.
- Proposal: provide a bar exam prep course at no additional cost.
- Question: Which statement best calls into question the proposal’s effectiveness?
Approach and reasoning process demonstrated
- A key meta-question: even if bar prep is offered, will pass rates rise, or are pass rates driven mostly by who gets admitted?
- Consider counter-scenarios (e.g., what if nobody shows up, or what if the course is bad).
Answer choice analysis shown (with which is correct and why)
Discussed options:
- A: Only a small minority of schools provide bar prep access
- Doesn’t weaken much: could still be effective for this school.
- B: Not all graduates took the bar
- Doesn’t directly connect to effectiveness for those failing multiple times.
- C (chosen as best): All recent graduates already purchased a bar exam prep course independently
- Strongly weakens: if they already had bar prep and still failed multiple times, free access for new grads may not fix the problem.
- A caveat/“student objection” is discussed: the dean could argue students bought a bad course; students are reminded weaken questions rarely need to account for perfect defenses.
- D: Cost of bar prep has dramatically increased
- Not directly relevant to whether it improves outcomes.
- E: Bar passage success is only one of many factors affecting reputation
- Considered a common wrong answer: even if reputation has other factors, bar passage is still a factor and doesn’t refute likely effectiveness.
Teaching lesson about LSAT strategy
- You’re looking for the best answer, not a perfect one.
- The best answer is often by a large margin—so when you miss it, the gap matters.
- Don’t panic if you can imagine a defense, unless it truly eliminates the weakness.
5) Reddit Q&A: Is inconsistent LSAT studying worse than stopping?
A Reddit question from Marcus_314 asks whether studying once weekly (sometimes once or twice) is worse than taking a break.
- Answer: No—studying once a week is better than studying zero.
Practical guidance
- If LSAT studying threatens grades (e.g., risking As), stopping temporarily may be justified.
- Otherwise, schedule inconsistency should improve as routines settle.
- Reminder: don’t let perfect be the enemy of the good.
Micro-strategy suggested
- Even 10–15 minutes or “one question” counts as progress.
- LSAT practice can be done in small moments (e.g., on a phone while waiting in line).
6) Advice to a future public-interest/prosecutor applicant: does school rank matter?
In a long email/Q&A from Kalin, the question is whether attending a higher-ranked law school matters given their goal:
- Career goal: prosecutor at Clark County District Attorney’s Office (Las Vegas)
- School list includes options around 160–166 LSAT medians
Main advice given:
- The most important rule is don’t pay too much.
- Law schools are described as largely fungible in terms of education.
- Outcome differences are attributed mainly to selection bias (who gets admitted and their baseline performance).
For Kalin specifically:
- UNLV is framed as the strongest fit due to existing ties and employability pathways.
- The speakers strongly encourage choosing based on scholarships—especially aiming for a stipend/full-tuition-like outcome to minimize cost.
7) Resume feedback: skills/interests section
From Savannah:
- Recommendation: add a skills/interests section, but keep interests more human and connective.
- Skills should be selective and credible.
Guidance examples
- Avoid listing basic assumed skills like “proficient in Microsoft Word.”
- List technical skills only if meaningful (e.g., Python, German).
- Language skills should reflect real ability (e.g., “conversational,” not “I learned three words”).
AI-era framing
- Human, conversational traits may matter more than before; AI can do tasks, but can’t “be human.”
- Keep it short (likely one line).
8) “Word of the Week”: deleterious
The hosts teach deleterious using example sentences.
- Meaning is derived from context: each example suggests a harmful/bad effect.
- Formal definition provided:
- “causing harm or damage,” often subtly, unexpectedly, or slowly.
- Teaching point for standardized tests:
- Exact dictionary definition matters less than recognizing “bad effects” from context.
9) Additional promotional/recap content
- Promotion: a free class update
- Date: Wednesday, September 23
- Time: 1 p.m. Eastern
- Hosted by: Nathan
- Registration: https://elsatdemon.com/free
- Closing stance emphasized: “Don’t pay for law school here” / avoid overpaying (theme reiterated).
Methodologies / instruction lists (detailed)
A) “Crushing 1L” completion plan (implied guidance)
- If you have time before 1L:
- Start the Crushing 1L content.
- Use it to build a framework for how 1L courses fit together (especially doctrines like torts/contracts/civ pro, etc.).
- Pacing:
- Aim for completion in one month to a couple months, depending on speed.
- Avoid spending excessive time per day; spread it across the summer.
- Ongoing support:
- Consider later outlines from doctrinal courses when the fall semester starts.
B) LSAT “weaken the argument” process (as modeled)
- Identify the dean/proposer’s claim and what needs improvement.
- Ask: Which fact would most directly undermine the proposal’s expected effectiveness?
- Evaluate each option for relevance to whether the intervention would actually work for the failing group.
- Prefer answers that create a strong connection between the existing problem and why the proposed fix likely won’t solve it.
- Remember: the correct weaken choice is often best by far (not merely “possible”).
C) LSAT study scheduling (“if you can’t do an hour”)
- If consistency is hard: study at least once weekly rather than stopping entirely.
- If time is short: do 10–15 minutes or one question.
- Then use:
- video/written explanations
- Q&A/ask button if needed
- Only pause studying if it meaningfully threatens your undergraduate grades; otherwise keep chipping away.
Speakers / sources featured (identified)
Speakers (people)
- Nathan Fox (host; “episode 577 of Thinking LSAT”)
- Ben Olsen (co-founder; host; co-founder of elsatdemon.com and elsatdemon daily podcast)
- Amina (guest; from the “Crushing 1L podcast” / mentioned as “crushing 1el podcast”)
- Josh (host/announcer voice for a promo segment: free class update)
- Paul Campos (referenced as author of a previously discussed paper about law schools’ fiscal issues)
Sources / publications referenced
- Reddit
- Post/query from Radiant Resolution 412
- Post/query from Marcus_314
- Subreddit mentioned: r/elsatdemon
- GW Hatchet (news source about GW Law layoffs)
- Harvard Crimson (news source about Harvard Law moving up recruiting timeline)
- Office of Career Services (OCS) / recruiting guidelines at Harvard Law School (described as the rule-setting body)
- United States News / Above the Law rankings (used as reference points)
- LSAT vocabulary context
- Not a publication, but claims about LSAT usage counts and practice test availability attributed to the Law School Admission Council (LSAC) and “the Lenses of LSAC” (described by the hosts)
- ELSAT Demon / Thinking LSAT / ELSAT Demon Daily (channel/podcast branding referenced)
- Claude (mentioned as a tool for generating invented example sentences for “deleterious”)
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