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Firms Now Recruit Before 1L Grades | Thinking LSAT, Ep. 577

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Main ideas & lessons

1) What “Crushing 1L” is and why to do it before starting law school

“Crushing 1L” is described as a collection of content designed to prepare students for the start of law school. It covers:

  • Foundational law school knowledge, such as:
    • An overview of the courts
    • How to read cases
    • What it’s like in a law school classroom
  • Intro doctrinal overviews (high-level coverage of major 1L subjects), including:
    • Torts
    • Contracts
    • Criminal Law
    • Civil Procedure
    • Property (mentioned as the one not previously listed in the same sentence)

The course is not fully customized to each school’s exact curriculum, but it aims to give a “bird’s eye view” so students understand core concepts earlier.

Why it helps (as argued by the speakers)

  • Entering classes with background knowledge makes the material feel less foreign.
  • Students spend less time grappling with basic concepts “for the first time” while classes move ahead.
  • Law schools are criticized for teaching topics in tiny pieces without providing the overall framework, so pre-learning context helps.

2) Practical plan: expected subscription length & pacing

  • Cost: $79/month
  • Suggested completion time: a couple months (especially during summer)
    • Possibly as fast as one month if someone “speedruns”
  • Pacing warning: don’t over-study daily—pace it across the pre-1L period.
  • Extra benefit mentioned: the platform may include outlines for some doctrinal courses, useful later in the fall for outlining and connecting concepts.

Where to find pricing/plans

  • URL: https://elsatdemon.com/plans
  • Plan details described:
    • $79/month for Crushing 1L
    • $79/month admissions course
    • $129 pathway plan bundling admissions + Crushing 1L
    • Option to upgrade for one-on-one help (a “pro plan” for essay counseling)

3) Recruiting timeline changes (Harvard) and how it affects 1Ls

The episode discusses law-firm hiring rules shifting earlier for 1Ls, using Harvard Law School as the news example.

Harvard moved the timeline earlier by:

  • Private-sector contact: no contact before Sept 28 (was Oct 1)
  • Formal applications: no applications before Oct 1 (was Nov 1)

A further described change:

  • Employers are asked to refrain from accepting applications until after the conclusion of the first fall semester (for summer job recruiting tied to later cycles).

Claimed impacts

  • This “accelerated recruiting process” may reduce or disrupt on-campus recruiting.
  • It can create resentment because schools lose control and offers may happen before first-semester grades.

Broader commentary embedded

  • Firms may still recruit extremely early (even before students apply), so attempts to control timelines may be partly symbolic.
  • The speakers connect this to a bigger theme: gatekeeping and institutional power struggles can conflict with students’ interests—even if the conflict is economically rational while being justified with “academia” language.

4) LSAT/LSAT Demon teaching: a bar-exam-logic question walkthrough (methodology)

The episode includes a detailed LSAT-style weaken-the-argument teaching segment about a law school dean’s proposal to provide bar prep.

Argument being evaluated (paraphrased)

  • A dean claims many recent graduates failed the bar exam multiple times, harming reputation.
  • Proposal: provide a bar exam prep course at no additional cost.
  • Question: Which statement best calls into question the proposal’s effectiveness?

Approach and reasoning process demonstrated

  • A key meta-question: even if bar prep is offered, will pass rates rise, or are pass rates driven mostly by who gets admitted?
  • Consider counter-scenarios (e.g., what if nobody shows up, or what if the course is bad).

Answer choice analysis shown (with which is correct and why)

Discussed options:

  • A: Only a small minority of schools provide bar prep access
    • Doesn’t weaken much: could still be effective for this school.
  • B: Not all graduates took the bar
    • Doesn’t directly connect to effectiveness for those failing multiple times.
  • C (chosen as best): All recent graduates already purchased a bar exam prep course independently
    • Strongly weakens: if they already had bar prep and still failed multiple times, free access for new grads may not fix the problem.
    • A caveat/“student objection” is discussed: the dean could argue students bought a bad course; students are reminded weaken questions rarely need to account for perfect defenses.
  • D: Cost of bar prep has dramatically increased
    • Not directly relevant to whether it improves outcomes.
  • E: Bar passage success is only one of many factors affecting reputation
    • Considered a common wrong answer: even if reputation has other factors, bar passage is still a factor and doesn’t refute likely effectiveness.

Teaching lesson about LSAT strategy

  • You’re looking for the best answer, not a perfect one.
  • The best answer is often by a large margin—so when you miss it, the gap matters.
  • Don’t panic if you can imagine a defense, unless it truly eliminates the weakness.

5) Reddit Q&A: Is inconsistent LSAT studying worse than stopping?

A Reddit question from Marcus_314 asks whether studying once weekly (sometimes once or twice) is worse than taking a break.

  • Answer: No—studying once a week is better than studying zero.

Practical guidance

  • If LSAT studying threatens grades (e.g., risking As), stopping temporarily may be justified.
  • Otherwise, schedule inconsistency should improve as routines settle.
  • Reminder: don’t let perfect be the enemy of the good.

Micro-strategy suggested

  • Even 10–15 minutes or “one question” counts as progress.
  • LSAT practice can be done in small moments (e.g., on a phone while waiting in line).

6) Advice to a future public-interest/prosecutor applicant: does school rank matter?

In a long email/Q&A from Kalin, the question is whether attending a higher-ranked law school matters given their goal:

  • Career goal: prosecutor at Clark County District Attorney’s Office (Las Vegas)
  • School list includes options around 160–166 LSAT medians

Main advice given:

  • The most important rule is don’t pay too much.
  • Law schools are described as largely fungible in terms of education.
  • Outcome differences are attributed mainly to selection bias (who gets admitted and their baseline performance).

For Kalin specifically:

  • UNLV is framed as the strongest fit due to existing ties and employability pathways.
  • The speakers strongly encourage choosing based on scholarships—especially aiming for a stipend/full-tuition-like outcome to minimize cost.

7) Resume feedback: skills/interests section

From Savannah:

  • Recommendation: add a skills/interests section, but keep interests more human and connective.
  • Skills should be selective and credible.

Guidance examples

  • Avoid listing basic assumed skills like “proficient in Microsoft Word.”
  • List technical skills only if meaningful (e.g., Python, German).
  • Language skills should reflect real ability (e.g., “conversational,” not “I learned three words”).

AI-era framing

  • Human, conversational traits may matter more than before; AI can do tasks, but can’t “be human.”
  • Keep it short (likely one line).

8) “Word of the Week”: deleterious

The hosts teach deleterious using example sentences.

  • Meaning is derived from context: each example suggests a harmful/bad effect.
  • Formal definition provided:
    • “causing harm or damage,” often subtly, unexpectedly, or slowly.
  • Teaching point for standardized tests:
    • Exact dictionary definition matters less than recognizing “bad effects” from context.

9) Additional promotional/recap content

  • Promotion: a free class update
    • Date: Wednesday, September 23
    • Time: 1 p.m. Eastern
    • Hosted by: Nathan
    • Registration: https://elsatdemon.com/free
  • Closing stance emphasized: “Don’t pay for law school here” / avoid overpaying (theme reiterated).

Methodologies / instruction lists (detailed)

A) “Crushing 1L” completion plan (implied guidance)

  • If you have time before 1L:
    • Start the Crushing 1L content.
    • Use it to build a framework for how 1L courses fit together (especially doctrines like torts/contracts/civ pro, etc.).
  • Pacing:
    • Aim for completion in one month to a couple months, depending on speed.
    • Avoid spending excessive time per day; spread it across the summer.
  • Ongoing support:
    • Consider later outlines from doctrinal courses when the fall semester starts.

B) LSAT “weaken the argument” process (as modeled)

  1. Identify the dean/proposer’s claim and what needs improvement.
  2. Ask: Which fact would most directly undermine the proposal’s expected effectiveness?
  3. Evaluate each option for relevance to whether the intervention would actually work for the failing group.
  4. Prefer answers that create a strong connection between the existing problem and why the proposed fix likely won’t solve it.
  5. Remember: the correct weaken choice is often best by far (not merely “possible”).

C) LSAT study scheduling (“if you can’t do an hour”)

  • If consistency is hard: study at least once weekly rather than stopping entirely.
  • If time is short: do 10–15 minutes or one question.
  • Then use:
    • video/written explanations
    • Q&A/ask button if needed
  • Only pause studying if it meaningfully threatens your undergraduate grades; otherwise keep chipping away.

Speakers / sources featured (identified)

Speakers (people)

  • Nathan Fox (host; “episode 577 of Thinking LSAT”)
  • Ben Olsen (co-founder; host; co-founder of elsatdemon.com and elsatdemon daily podcast)
  • Amina (guest; from the “Crushing 1L podcast” / mentioned as “crushing 1el podcast”)
  • Josh (host/announcer voice for a promo segment: free class update)
  • Paul Campos (referenced as author of a previously discussed paper about law schools’ fiscal issues)

Sources / publications referenced

  • Reddit
    • Post/query from Radiant Resolution 412
    • Post/query from Marcus_314
    • Subreddit mentioned: r/elsatdemon
  • GW Hatchet (news source about GW Law layoffs)
  • Harvard Crimson (news source about Harvard Law moving up recruiting timeline)
  • Office of Career Services (OCS) / recruiting guidelines at Harvard Law School (described as the rule-setting body)
  • United States News / Above the Law rankings (used as reference points)
  • LSAT vocabulary context
    • Not a publication, but claims about LSAT usage counts and practice test availability attributed to the Law School Admission Council (LSAC) and “the Lenses of LSAC” (described by the hosts)
  • ELSAT Demon / Thinking LSAT / ELSAT Demon Daily (channel/podcast branding referenced)
  • Claude (mentioned as a tool for generating invented example sentences for “deleterious”)

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