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“Chama democracia c*r*lho. O que as pessoas chama de populismo é muitas vezes só democracia.”

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The speaker argues that governments are considered pragmatic when they respond to market pressure, but are condemned as populist or demagogic when they respond to public pressure. They contend that governments should be more responsive to people than to markets.

In the speaker’s view, capitalism has become so dominant that democratic demands are often dismissed as “populism,” even when they may simply represent democracy in action.

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