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Les ÉLECTRIQUES d'occasion à ACHETER et à ne SURTOUT PAS acheter !
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Product reviewed (theme of the video)
The video is a guide to used electric cars in France for under €20,000, with model-by-model recommendations and “avoid” warnings. It does not focus on a single product; instead, it ranks multiple EVs by category—microcars, city cars, compact cars/sedans, and compact SUVs—emphasizing:
- Resale value
- Versatility
- Charging access
- Battery size and real-world usefulness
Key recommendations by category (with notable specs)
1) Microcars (city-focused EVs)
Best picks
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Volkswagen e-Up! / SEAT Mii Electric / Škoda Citigo-e iV (same “Up!/Mii/Citigo” family)
- Pros
- Very pleasant in the city (can also go outside cities)
- CCS charging port = access to more chargers than rivals in this class
- Type 2 also
- 32 kWh battery
- Efficient / low running costs
- Strong resale appeal (positioned as one of the best options)
- Cons
- Charging isn’t “very fast” (about 7 kW AC mentioned)
- Variant guidance (important)
- Recommend “Yup 2.0” / newer version
- Older versions had <20 kWh and are “too limited”
- Range
- About 260 km WLTP (Phase 2)
- Typical used price
- About €10,000–€15,000 on Le Bon Coin (as stated)
- Pros
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BMW i3 / i3s (recommend avoid range-extender versions)
- Pros
- Good versatility for an urban car due to CCS
- 37 kWh battery
- Better charging mix: 7 kW AC and 50 kW DC
- Positioned as a collector-style EV likely to hold value
- Cons
- Still an “urban vehicle” (not a true travel EV)
- Recommendation (specific)
- The 120 Ah version with 170/184 hp and 37 kWh
- Do not recommend versions with a range extender
- Price
- Can be found under €20,000 on Le Bon Coin
- Pros
Also recommended (but limited)
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Renault Twingo Electric / Smart EQ Fortwo (same technical basis mentioned)
- Pros
- Excellent for city use
- Dynamic (82 hp)
- Great turning radius
- Low consumption in summer
- Cons (major)
- No CCS port → limited to Type 2 (can’t use ultra-fast charging stations)
- Battery / range
- 22 kWh, 190 km WLTP (stated as “190 km”)
- Charging
- 22 kW onboard charger
- Main verdict
- City-only practicality; constrained outside city
- Pros
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Smart EQ (separately mentioned)
- Pros
- Good for two people
- 82 hp
- 22 kW charging (under an hour on a 22 kW charger)
- Cons
- Only city use
- 17 kWh battery
- Range 235 km WLTP (not huge)
- Can be found under €20,000 (as stated)
- Pros
Budget value pick with a crucial condition
- Dacia Spring
- Pros
- Low purchase price
- Used availability is common above €10,000
- Recommended mainly because it’s cheap to run
- Can become more versatile if equipped correctly
- Critical requirement
- Recommend only if it has the optional CCS charging
- Not all Springs have CCS
- Cons
- Even with CCS, charging speed isn’t great (but CCS adds access to fast/ultra-fast networks)
- Driving is described as not particularly pleasant
- Resale angle
- CCS option adds an “extra selling point” at resale
- Pros
Avoid (explicit)
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Citroën Ami / Fiat Topolino
- Not framed as “bad,” but positioned as a second/third vehicle
- ~70 km range, purely urban
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Avoid the “Citroën/Peugeot/Mitsubishi” trio (older micro-EVs)
- Cons
- Outdated
- Type 1 charging
- Average build/looks
- Hard to resell
- Value “plummeted”
- Cons
2) City cars
Top pick
- Fiat 500e (recommend the 37 kWh version)
- Pros
- Well-built and pleasant
- Good real-world versatility
- Fast DC charging up to 85 kW and 11 kW AC
- All-season use (stated 200–250 km)
- Charging / range specs (usable version discussed)
- 37 kWh usable
- 320 km WLTP
- 118 hp
- Cons
- Can be expensive on higher trims
- Key warning
- Avoid the 23 kWh version (reduced range and worse resale)
- Pros
Good alternative
- Peugeot e-208 / Opel/Vauxhall Corsa-e (early versions)
- Pros
- Early versions can be ~€15,000–€20,000
- 136 hp
- 46 kWh battery
- 362 km WLTP
- DC charging up to 100 kW (paper value)
- Cons (main complaint: charging behavior)
- AC only ~7–7.4 kW on early versions
- DC “100 kW” doesn’t match real charging well (“average at this price,” even with ultrafast)
- Charging slows after 80%
- Cold weather performance described as “mediocre”
- Expected ~30 minutes for 10%→80%
- Exception
- A 11 kW HE option exists but is rare; if found, it’s preferred
- Pros
Conditioned recommendation
- Renault Zoe (latest gen 52 kWh + CCS)
- Pros
- If you find a CCS-equipped Zoe, it’s recommended
- 52 kWh, 135 hp, ~400 km WLTP
- 22 kW AC
- Cons
- CCS cars are practically absent on Le Bon Coin
- Older Zoes often involve battery leasing issues and may lack CCS
- Warnings
- Be careful with models bought via battery leasing (complexity)
- Older 40/22 kWh models are common but don’t offer CCS (or may not), hurting resale
- Pros
Avoid (explicit)
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Mini Cooper Electric
- Cons
- Lowest range in the “best” list shown
- 37 kWh for ~230 km → limited versatility
- Cons
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Bolloré Blue Car / Citroën Ami variants
- Cons
- Very old, poorly made
- “Nightmare” to own
- Special battery management discharges when parked
- Unsellable
- Cons
3) Compact cars / sedans (under €20k)
Best pick
- MG4 (standard model)
- Pros
- Excellent overall value
- 51 kWh LFP battery
- Can charge to 100% more comfortably (LFP tolerates full charge better)
- 160 hp, 365 km WLTP
- 11 kW AC and 140 kW DC
- Modern generation, full equipment, spacious interior
- Cons
- Interior materials not exceptional
- LFP can be more temperamental in cold weather (this MG4 has battery preconditioning)
- Price
- Finding them under €20,000 is possible
- Pros
Also mentioned as a winner (but rare on classifieds)
- Volkswagen ID.3
- Pros
- Well-built
- Up to 120 kW charging (or 135 kW for the 204 hp version)
- 300+ km WLTP
- Recommendation preference
- If available: 204 hp with 58 kWh (better range)
- 45 kWh versions work but are more limited
- Cons
- Rare used listings
- 45 kWh versions are uncommon because they were discontinued early
- Pros
Another strong recommendation
- “Laanunic 28 / 38” (spelling unclear in subtitles; treated as two recommended trims/models)
- Pros
- Very well equipped
- Reliable, efficient
- Low running costs
- Quick charging (28 faster than 38, per video)
- Range
- Stated: “over 250 km NDC and WLTP” for “Unique 28”
- Realistically described as ~200–250 km
- Price
- <€20,000
- Reality check
- Efficiency is strong even with the smaller battery
- Pros
Avoid
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Nissan Leaf 1 (demo/different issue)
- Cons
- Small battery, short range
- “Demo charging port” makes it complicated
- Hard to use daily
- Cons
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Nissan Leaf 2
- Not fully condemned, but hesitant due to described demo model status
- Unknown resale/reliability implications
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Volkswagen Golf EV
- Cons
- Heavier with the same 37 kWh battery as the Up! → not great range
- Resale difficult
- 18 kWh versions even worse
- Cons
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Renault Fluence
- Cons
- 22 kWh, outdated first generation
- Avoid
- Cons
4) Compact SUVs (under €20k)
Top pick
- Hyundai Kona EV
- Pros
- Best choice in this category
- Can be found around/under €20,000 (39 or 64 kWh versions exist)
- Recommended spec at <€20k
- 39 kWh
- 136 hp, 305 km WLTP
- AC 7 or 11 kW
- DC up to 50 kW (if stated option)
- Better alternative
- 64 kWh version (if you find one)
- Pros
Potential entry-level options (with caveats)
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Stellantis platform EV compact SUVs
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Mentioned: Opel Mokka-e, DS 3 Crossback EV, Citroën e-C4 / e-IC4, etc. (subtitles reference names that appear misheard)
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Pros
- Sometimes ~€20k or less
- Acceptable entry point
- Cons
- Same platform as a city car → range not exceptional
- Low equipment
- No battery preconditioning → harder winter driving
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Avoid (explicit)
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First-gen MG ZS
- Cons
- Old MG
- “Borderline” 44 kWh for the class
- Average build quality
- Outdated infotainment
- Likely poor aging + hard resale
- Cons
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Mazda MX-30
- Cons
- Small 30 kWh battery → ~200 km range
- Not recommended outside city
- DC fast charging only 37 kW
- Cons
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Kia EV6? / Kia SA EV (name unclear)
- Cons
- Charging port concern: CHAdeMO mentioned; not all stations support it
- Older versions may have Type 1 → risk of being “caught out”
- Resale unknown
- Cons
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eWAYs U5
- Cons
- Brand uncertainty (“going under,” no dealerships)
- Maintenance via Feu Vert
- Highway efficiency drops quickly
- Resale/ownership risk
- Cons
Pros (recurring themes across recommendations)
- CCS charging access emphasized as the biggest practical advantage (vs. Type 2-only or Type 1-only cars)
- Battery size/efficiency matched to use case
- Low running costs, especially with home charging
- Resale value guidance (some trims/models positioned as holding value better)
Cons (recurring themes across “avoid” or caveated picks)
- Non-CCS ports (Type 1, no CCS) limit charging network and versatility
- Outdated/older generations with questionable build/equipment or charging/battery tech
- Battery leasing complexity (notably with older Renault Zoës)
- Charging speed not matching advertised DC kW
- Brand/after-sales risk (e.g., eWays U5)
Unique points explicitly mentioned (consolidated list)
- Budget target: used EVs under €20,000 (multiple categories)
- “Most interesting models” are chosen for:
- Likely better resale
- Versatility
Microcars highlights
- Up!/Mii/Citigo: CCS advantage, 32 kWh, efficient, ~260 km WLTP
- Avoid older microcar variants with <20 kWh (the “Yup 1.0 issue”)
- Twingo/Smart: no CCS (Type 2 only), 22 kWh, ~190 km WLTP, good city performance
- BMW i3/i3s: pure electric only, 37 kWh, 7 kW AC + 50 kW DC, CCS, “collector’s item” value retention
- Smart 17 kWh: city-only, 82 hp, 22 kW charging, 235 km WLTP
- Dacia Spring: only with optional CCS; otherwise less versatile; cheap but not great driving
- Citroën Ami / Fiat Topolino: fun/secondary, ~70 km range, urban-only
- Avoid older Citroën/Peugeot/Mitsubishi micro EVs: Type 1, outdated, poor resale
City cars highlights
- Fiat 500e: recommend 37 kWh (118 hp, 320 km WLTP, DC up to 85 kW, AC 11 kW); avoid 23 kWh
- Peugeot e-208 / Corsa-e: early versions (136 hp, 46 kWh, 362 km); charging criticism (AC ~7–7.4 kW, DC slower/average in practice, slows after 80%, cold-weather mediocre; ~30 min for 10%→80%)
- Renault Zoe: latest 52 kWh + CCS recommended; CCS rare on listings; avoid leasing complications and older non-CCS Zoes for resale
- Avoid Mini Cooper Electric: 37 kWh / ~230 km too limited
- Avoid Bolloré Blue Car: very old, poor build, “unsellable,” battery discharges when parked
Compact cars highlights
- MG4: 51 kWh LFP, 160 hp, 365 km, 11 kW AC + 140 kW DC; preconditioning helps cold; materials not exceptional
- VW ID.3: rare; prefer 58 kWh / 204 hp; 120–135 kW charging; 45 kWh less desirable
- “Laanunic 28/38”: efficient, reliable, low running costs; “28” faster charging; stated >250 km, realistic ~200–250 km; under €20,000
- Avoid Nissan Leaf 1: demo port + short range; hesitate on Leaf 2 due to demo-model uncertainty
- Avoid Golf EV: same 37 kWh but heavier; resale difficult; 18 kWh versions worse
- Avoid Renault Fluence: 22 kWh, outdated first gen
Compact SUV highlights
- Hyundai Kona: best pick; recommend 39 kWh under €20k (136 hp, 305 km WLTP); consider 64 kWh if found
- Stellantis platform EV SUVs: often cheap, but range/equipment limited; no preconditioning hurts winter
- Avoid MG ZS 1st gen, Mazda MX-30, questionable Kia variants (CHAdeMO/Type 1 risk), and eWAYs U5
Speaker views (contributions)
- The main speaker (“Max,” implied) provides the ranking/recommendations and the charging/resale guidance.
- No other distinct speakers with clearly differing opinions are indicated.
Overall verdict / recommendation
Buy recommendations (best bet)
- Volkswagen e-Up! / Škoda Citigo-e / SEAT e-Mii (newer “2.0” version) for microcar value with CCS
- BMW i3 / i3s (pure electric, ideally 120Ah / 37 kWh) for versatility and resale appeal
- MG4 (51 kWh LFP) for strong “modern EV + charging + value” under €20k
- Dacia Spring only if CCS-equipped
- Fiat 500e (37 kWh) and Peugeot e-208 early versions for city comfort—with awareness of charging limits
- Hyundai Kona for compact SUV practicality under €20k
Avoid / be cautious
- EVs with:
- Non-CCS charging constraints
- Outdated generations
- Battery leasing complexity
- Poor brand/service support (e.g., eWays U5)
- Specifically avoid:
- The older micro EV trio with Type 1
- Bolloré Blue Car variants
- “Demo-model” ambiguities for Leaf variants
- Low-range/low-charging-choice models like Mini Cooper (as framed here)
Bottom line: For under €20,000, prioritize CCS compatibility and battery/charging behavior that matches your real use.