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I’m Sitting in the Best $20,000 New Car You Can Buy

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Product Review

Product reviewed

  • 2025 Subaru Forester Wilderness (brand-new; purchased for a deal vs the newer 2026 model)

Key features mentioned

Powertrain / drivetrain

  • Non-turbocharged 4-cylinder engine (“normally aspirated”)
    • Chosen to avoid the faster wear some people associate with turbo setups
  • All-wheel drive (AWD) with a 60/40 split (as described)
  • CVT transmission
    • Described as well-engineered by Subaru

Off-road / “Wilderness” capability

  • Higher ride height than a regular Forester
  • Drive modes including:
    • snow, dirt, deep snow, mud, normal
  • Off-road view screen for better visibility
  • Heated seats
  • Traction control can be turned off
  • Automatic vehicle hold
    • Keeps the car “locked” in place
  • Auto trunk plus power-folding seats
    • Automatic up/down operation
  • Full-size spare tire (not a donut)
    • Described as having automatic closing

Driver tech / comfort

  • Intelligent adaptive cruise control
    • 3 following-distance settings
  • Large touchscreen
  • Dual-zone climate controls (heat + A/C)
  • Large moonroof/sunroof

Anti-start/stop workaround

  • Owner installed an Auto Stop Eliminator to disable automatic start/stop permanently

Real-world usage & performance (incl. gas mileage)

  • Gas mileage reported: ~27.5–27.6 mpg
  • Performance feel:
    • Smooth ride
    • Reasonably stiff suspension for off-road use
    • “Absolutely nothing wrong with it”
  • Stability/safety feel:
    • Feels “up high enough” and stable
    • Water on the road is less concerning due to vehicle height

Price / value comparisons made

  • Price paid: ~$35,000 (stated)
  • Toyota comparison (speaker’s estimate): Toyota equivalent could be ~$50,000–$65,000
  • Availability vs Toyota (speaker’s claim):
    • Subaru units were allegedly on the lot immediately
    • Toyota would allegedly require about a 6-month wait
  • Deal reasoning:
    • Bought the 2025 leftover because the 2026 had changes the owner “wasn’t interested in”

Trade-in / negotiation story

  • Dealer initially offered $15k for a Tacoma
  • Owner says CarMax would give $20k
  • Dealer ended around $19.5k / $19,950

Hybrid comparison

  • A regular Forester hybrid (2026) is said to get about ~35 mpg
  • Wilderness is not available as a hybrid (yet; possibly later)

Ownership & maintenance pros/cons (most important “fine print”)

Pros

  • Non-turbo engine choice to reduce wear concerns
  • Strong fuel economy for an AWD Wilderness (about ~27.5 mpg)
  • Practical off-road usability
    • Includes mode options and visibility tech
    • Owner also mentioned installing better skid plates
  • Convenience tech
    • Adaptive cruise, auto hold, and power cargo/seat features
  • Longevity confidence
    • Owner believes the non-turbo setup will last “forever” if maintained

Cons / cautions

  • CVT maintenance required
    • Warning: change CVT fluid every ~30,000–35,000 miles
    • Claim: skipping service can lead to breakdown around 100k+ miles
    • If maintained: speaker claims 150k–200k+ miles is possible
  • No Wilderness hybrid yet
    • Hybrid MPG exists on the regular Forester line, but not on Wilderness (as discussed)
  • Start/stop annoyance
    • Owner installed a permanent eliminator due to dislike of the feature

Other relevant details mentioned

Winter / dealer-lot situation

  • Multiple 2025 units sat outside over winter
  • Several reportedly wouldn’t start, requiring new batteries

Rust prevention / undercarriage protection

  • Owner added oil undercoating via a Massachusetts-area shop
    • Cost: $250
    • Suggested frequency: about every 2 years
  • Rationale: salt/rust risk in northern regions
  • Example cited: rust issues on a nearly 10-year-old Corolla undercarriage

Paint protection (additional note)

  • Ceramic coating recommended for paint protection

Overall user experience (what it felt like)

  • Cabin/comfort: “very nice” seats; heated seats; good creature comforts
  • Driving feel: smooth and stable; “plenty zippy enough” without turbo; sport mode available
  • Visibility: strong reverse/camera visibility and off-road camera view
  • Off-road readiness: feels purpose-built; owner augmented it with better skid plates

Verdict / recommendation

Recommended if you want a capable AWD off-roader with strong value and decent real-world MPG—as long as you’re willing to maintain the CVT properly.

  • Speaker strongly advises avoiding turbos
  • Emphasizes CVT fluid service every 30–35k miles as critical for long-term reliability
  • If you specifically want hybrid MPG, consider the regular Forester hybrid instead, since the Wilderness isn’t offered as a hybrid (yet)

Unique points mentioned (consolidated)

  1. 2025 Forester Wilderness purchased for a better deal vs 2026 changes
  2. $35k price; Toyota equivalent supposedly $50–65k
  3. Subaru availability immediately vs Toyota ~6-month wait claim
  4. Trade-in negotiation story: Tacoma from ~$15k to ~$19.95k (with CarMax comparison)
  5. Non-turbo 4-cylinder chosen to reduce wear
  6. Real MPG: ~27.5–27.6 mpg
  7. AWD 60/40 split and higher stance for less worry in snow/water
  8. Off-road features/modes; owner adds skid plates
  9. Note that 2026 Wilderness is slightly higher but “tiny” difference
  10. Cabin/storage: dog-friendly; automatic power seat/cargo features; usable rear space
  11. Full-size spare (not a donut) with automatic closing
  12. Regular Forester hybrid reportedly ~35 mpg; Wilderness not hybrid (maybe later)
  13. Rust prevention: $250 oil undercoating, about every 2 years in salty regions
  14. Ceramic coating recommendation for paint protection
  15. Auto start/stop eliminator installed; owner wants it permanently disabled
  16. Traction control can be turned off
  17. Intelligent cruise control with distance settings (owner uses middle setting)
  18. Large screen + off-road wide camera view + automatic vehicle hold
  19. CVT longevity depends on fluid changes every 30–35k miles; otherwise risk around 100k+
  20. Driving impressions: smooth ride, stable, “zippy enough” without turbo; sport mode available

Speakers / views

  • Single main speaker/owner perspective (Mike referenced; most commentary appears from one driver/owner covering purchase, modifications, driving experience, and maintenance advice)

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