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LDS Truth Claims 1 - Introduction and Epistemology (Find link to the written presentation below!)
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1) Response to Common Evangelical Critiques of Mormon Scholarship (1997 paper)
The video begins by discussing an Evangelical theological article/paper from 1997 by Carl Miler (Carl Miller) and Paul Owen. The presenters argue that Evangelical critics of Mormonism often rely on misconceptions and myths, including:
- There are few trained traditional Mormon scholars engaging Evangelical debates.
- Training in relevant disciplines (history, biblical languages, theology/philosophy) necessarily causes Mormons to abandon LDS beliefs.
- Liberal or Neo-orthodox Mormonism is collapsing mainstream LDS Christianity.
- Neo-orthodox Mormon scholarship has shifted LDS churches away from traditional emphasis.
They conclude (as the video presents it) that:
- Mormon scholars/apologists have answered many standard Evangelical criticisms, though not all have been fully addressed.
- Many Evangelical books criticizing Mormonism do not responsibly engage contemporary Mormon scholarship, sometimes repeating outdated claims or misrepresentations.
- As a result, criticism can become more sensational and less academically credible.
The video notes that a related outcome of this discussion was the New Mormon Challenge (published 2002), which the speaker suggests showed improvement by interacting more carefully with Mormon work (though the framing here is generally favorable to “our side”).
2) Focus on a Specific Interview: Excommunication and “Unanswered Issues”
The speaker says the project is motivated by observing people (including ex-Mormons) make similar errors as some top Evangelical critics—especially misunderstanding Mormon scholarship better than the critics do—creating a “disconnect.”
They describe watching an interview with a person who claims:
- They were excommunicated for raising uncomfortable questions and bringing concerns to a stake (as part of church communication processes).
- They prayed about the Book of Mormon but “never felt the spirit.”
- They spent “thousands of hours” reading, but still couldn’t resolve “seven main church history problems.”
The “seven issues” are grouped into long-debated categories such as:
- Polygamy, including questions about plural marriage involving women without Emma’s knowledge.
- Church history not being written down, i.e., the claim that key events weren’t recorded at the time.
- First Vision accounts, with multiple versions.
- Book of Mormon issues, including alleged anachronisms, translation-related concerns, and types of errors (including mentions of “KJV/KJV ER translation errors”).
The speaker argues these are not “new” problems, but long-circulated topics already addressed by LDS scholarship—sometimes for decades.
They repeatedly emphasize that the interviewed person (and/or critics generally) may not be engaging the best scholarship or may not know standard responses, and they frame the goal as remedying this gap.
3) The Video’s Stated Goals and Method for Discussion/Class
The speaker outlines a larger educational effort/class aimed at studying LDS truth claims and how critics argue against them. The approach is framed as:
- Start with the positive case, but intermix criticism where relevant.
- When presenting criticism, give critics the benefit of the doubt and “let them speak” using quotes to minimize misrepresentation.
- Present both evidence and inferences, aiming to be “balanced” and comprehensive enough to guide further study.
- Provide resources to study both sides, rather than demanding one group’s narrative.
They also introduce study heuristics (a repeatable method) and define anachronisms as elements out of place for a text’s claimed time period.
4) Epistemology Foundation: How Belief Can Be Rational Without Strict Evidentialism
A significant portion of the subtitles provides a philosophical setup defining epistemology as the study of knowledge and justified belief, not just what people believe.
The speaker contrasts viewpoints such as:
- Agnosticism vs. atheism (as framed for the class).
- Evidentialism, the idea that believing anything requires sufficient evidence—often tied to philosophers and scientific norms (including discussion of falsifiability and Popper).
- The claim that evidentialism may be applied inconsistently (e.g., demanding it for God-belief while not meeting the same strict standards for other beliefs).
They then propose an alternative:
- Reformed epistemology, where belief can be warranted through proper grounding and defense against known objections (example discussed: the argument from evil).
- Religious experience as a legitimate basis for belief. They mention William James, emphasizing that experience can be noetic (more than mere feelings), even if it’s not necessarily “proof” of anything.
They also summarize related thinkers:
- Kierkegaard, including the idea that a “true relationship with God” can involve stages that appear to suspend ordinary rationality (faith amid the “absurd”).
- C.S. Lewis / Elder Maxwell, referenced via a quote suggesting rational argument doesn’t directly create belief, but can create conditions where belief can flourish.
Overall, the stance is that people can reasonably hold LDS beliefs (or reject them) without needing to meet a strict evidentialist standard the speaker argues is too strict or inconsistently applied.
5) “LDS Truth Claims That Matter” and Which Disputes Are Emphasized
The speaker identifies three LDS truth claims as the most important:
- Joseph Smith’s possession/translation of plates (metal plates).
- Translation into English (turning plates into the Book of Mormon).
- Receipt of divine authority by Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery.
They argue there is relatively little internal LDS disagreement on these core claims, while disputes do exist on:
- Causes and justification for polygamy.
- Whether the priesthood ban was purely racist or had divine justification (the LDS Church is described as saying it was racism, while the speaker claims some still argue otherwise).
- Various historical/interpretive criticisms and how they should be understood.
They also frame the internet as changing how members react: previously, church narratives emphasized faith-building themes; now members may encounter criticisms and controversial topics online for the first time, destabilizing faith.
6) Proposed Curriculum Topics and Categories of Evidence
The speaker outlines what will be covered, including:
- Religious experiences as a category of evidence/inference.
- “Witnesses”: formal and informal witnesses connected to Book of Mormon/plates.
Later topics mentioned include walking through LDS materials such as:
- Book of Mormon issues, including alleged anachronisms (during discussion).
- Book of Abraham and related themes.
- Ancient rituals, doctrine, baptism for the dead, and other theological topics.
- Theosis, corporate God/social Trinity, and the problem of evil.
Criticisms are expected to be broken into:
- Theological issues
- Historical issues
with special focus on Joseph Smith and later figures (including mentions of the priesthood ban and racism).
They also define how different evidence types might be evaluated, including:
- Personal religious experience (first-person)
- Testimony from others
- Formal logic arguments
- Physical evidence
- Expert testimony
…and how these lead to different kinds of inferences.
Presenters / Contributors Mentioned
- Carl Mler (Carl Miller)
- Paul Owen
- Joseph Smith
- Oliver Cowdery
- Carl (speaker referenced as “Dentist in Sammamish”; no full name in subtitles)
- William James
- David Hume
- Bertrand Russell
- William Clifford (mentioned via “Clifford’s” idea/quote)
- Michael Co (name appears incomplete; likely Michael Coe, but unclear)
- Brent Gardner
- John Sorenson
- Kierkegaard
- Pascal (subtitles unclear: “Pascal kikore”; unclear combination of names)
- Karl Popper
- Elder Maxwell
- C.S. Lewis
- Michael Co (repeated; still appears incomplete in subtitles)