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Episode 8: The Russia I Saw
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Overview
John Mearsheimer argues—based on an April–September 2025 trip to Russia (Moscow and St. Petersburg)—that he gained a “pretty good” (explicitly anecdotal) understanding of what Russia’s foreign-policy elite think about the Ukraine war and Russia’s prospects for winning.
Daily Life and Sanctions
He reports that daily life looked “remarkably normal,” with few visible signs of war besides:
- Long lines at gas stations.
- Sanction-related payment restrictions, including:
- He says he could not use Western credit cards or dollars.
- He was effectively unable to pay without help.
- Sanction spillovers in the West, including:
- Russia’s inability to use American cards for subscriptions and similar services.
- Some brand changes, such as:
- Starbucks-to-“Star” substitutes.
He also notes that flying directly into Russia from the West is no longer possible; he traveled via Istanbul.
Russia’s Economy vs. Ukraine’s Collapse
Mearsheimer claims there was no sign to him that Russia’s economy was “in trouble,” and that people he spoke with did not express concern about economic dangers.
He contrasts this with Ukraine, arguing that Ukraine depends heavily on Western economic and military aid to survive. He points to:
- Perceived weakness in Ukraine’s finances, citing a New York Times headline about Ukraine needing $27 billion more.
- No food shortages in Russia, contrasted with conditions he says are worse in Ukraine—especially after Black Sea port disruptions.
- A military production imbalance, where:
- Russia appears able to produce large quantities of weapons (missiles, drones, aircraft).
- Ukraine appears increasingly reliant on Western deliveries (e.g., requests for Patriot/PAC-3).
Putin’s Political Position: No Evidence of Imminent Replacement
Mearsheimer says he found no indication that Russia’s elites believe Putin is politically likely to be toppled.
While dissatisfaction exists, he attributes it to the view that Putin hadn’t fought “vigorously enough” earlier in the war—an issue he says was resolved after Russia “ramped up” attacks around June, reducing dissatisfaction.
He also argues that if Putin were replaced, it would likely be by an equally or more hawkish figure—not a “dovish” negotiator.
Russian Nationalism and Worldview
He describes the Russian elite and public he met as strongly nationalistic, emphasizing:
- Traditional values (religion/Christianity, family).
- A distinction between Russia and “liberal” Western values.
He characterizes Russian attitudes toward the West as hostile, not merely political but also cultural/values-based.
How the War Is Expected to Be Won: Escalation + Strategic Bombing
He argues that Russia escalated massively in summer and that political constraints push Moscow to keep escalating.
He claims Russians believe frontline pressure alone is insufficient. Instead, the key is strategic destruction behind the front, including:
- The Black Sea blockade/port closures.
- Strikes on Ukraine’s energy infrastructure.
- Attacks on military and infrastructure targets (bridges, rail, locomotives, etc.).
He also reports that Russians view drones as changing the battlefield—allowing Ukraine to resist longer. Without drones, he says Ukrainians told him the war might have ended earlier.
Overall, he reports that “almost everybody” he spoke with believes Russia will win, though they do not clearly define what “winning” means in concrete settlement terms.
Views of Adversaries (Ukrainians, Europeans, Americans)
Ukrainians
He says Russian attitudes were not characterized by deep hatred. Many Russians, he argues, have family ties and shared heritage with Ukraine—described as “blood brothers and sisters”—which tempers hostility.
Europeans
He says Europeans—especially Britain and Germany—are seen as the main “devils,” largely due to World War II memories within the Russian elite.
United States / Trump
He claims many Russians think the U.S. under Biden sought to weaken Russia, but that Russians believe Trump may have had better intentions.
However, he says Russians concluded that Trump (and figures he names—Witkoff, Kushner) could not secure a durable deal.
He centers blame on the collapse of a proposed settlement framework after an Anchorage meeting. He describes a prior compromise, including territorial arrangements.
The Anchorage “Compromise” Narrative (and Why Russians Lost Faith)
He claims there was an August 2025 Anchorage agreement framework:
- Donbass: Russia would gain full control over the areas where Russia had annexed.
- Zaporizhzhia and Kherson: Russia would accept the conflict line remaining in place—a territorial compromise.
He argues Trump failed to get Ukrainians and Europeans to accept it, and that Western “hardliners” intervened, leading Trump to back away.
As a result, he says Russians lost faith that the U.S. can negotiate a settlement and came to believe the war must end militarily, including through air campaigns.
Expected End-State and What “Denazification” Could Realistically Mean
He argues the likely outcome is a harsh settlement, not full conquest of all Ukraine.
He says Russians reportedly do not expect to take all of Ukraine, because occupying western areas would be unmanageable. Instead, Russia may seek more than the annexed oblasts—potentially including Odessa—pushing as far west as militarily and politically feasible.
He adds that Russians want a dysfunctional rump Ukraine to remain incentivized against Russian control afterward.
On “denazification,” he says he sees no realistic way Russia could remove nationalist elites from power postwar, implying nationalist/ultra-nationalist forces would likely remain influential.
Threat to Europe: He Dismisses the Western Concern
Finally, he rejects the Western/EU fear that Russia aims to reconquer Eastern Europe or restore a Soviet-style empire.
He says he found no evidence that Russia intends to invade NATO members.
He frames the remaining key questions as:
- How far west Russia will push in Ukraine.
- What Ukraine’s relationship with the West/NATO will become (neutrality vs. NATO posture).
Presenters / Contributors
- John Mearsheimer (speaker)