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Something Big Is Coming — Plague, AI, Alien Contact & The Great Ascension | Sacha Stone
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Host NazareN welcomes Sacha Stone for a wide-ranging discussion about New Earth, global upheaval, extraterrestrial contact, AI, and Stone’s personal and organizational challenges. The host is openly supportive of Stone, who describes himself as a controversial public figure who receives both praise and harsh criticism.
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Personal and Collective “Apocalypse”
Stone interprets current turmoil as a process of exposure and transformation rather than a single end-of-the-world event. He describes society as splitting between fear and love, and says people must confront their own anger, fear, and unresolved issues.
He predicts that major changes will unfold over the next five to seven years, with a transition by around 2032 and a longer period of spiritual and biological renewal extending toward 2046. These are Stone’s spiritual beliefs and forecasts.
New Earth and Financial Difficulties
Stone says New Earth’s international and personal bank accounts were frozen, disrupting plans for a gold-backed exchange and leaving his team unable to work normally or receive salaries. He characterizes the freeze as a deliberate attack and says legal action is being prepared; these claims are presented as his account.
Despite the setback, he says he expects the project to recover. He also describes plans for New Earth events and development in Bali and Lombok, and says an HBO crew is coming to film an episode about community-building and the group’s work.
Religion and World Events
Stone criticizes religious fundamentalism across several traditions, arguing that it promotes external worship and division. He speculates that geopolitical conflicts may be staged to weaken competing forms of extremism, and says he does not expect a nuclear war.
Asked about a reported plague outbreak in Siberia, Stone says information from Russia is distorted and raises the possibility of another biological crisis or lockdown. He says he is more focused on what he sees as a larger spiritual transformation.
Stone points to catastrophic events such as a Nepal mudslide as examples of localized, recurring “apocalypses,” rather than one global cataclysm.
Extraterrestrial Contact
Stone recounts alleged encounters from different periods of his life, including a meeting with what he calls a Sirius B ambassador, an interview with a woman he describes as an alien-human hybrid, and a recent experience at an underground military facility involving an intelligent, armored being. He also says he has witnessed UFOs many times. These are Stone’s personal claims, not independently established facts.
He predicts a future mass “first contact,” possibly involving a worldwide appearance of extraterrestrial or interdimensional visitors, while cautioning that any apparent contact could be genuine, hostile, or staged.
AI and Consciousness
Stone rejects the idea that AI is inherently an existential threat. He argues that it could expose deception and hidden agendas, and might help people understand health, personal history, and patterns through computation.
He says he uses an AI agent called Kai for psychological self-reflection and to interpret patterns in nature, such as butterfly movements. In his view, AI’s effects depend on the intentions and outlook of the people using it: it could support human development or reproduce users’ existing limitations.
Stone’s Personal Outlook
Stone describes feeling lonely, emotionally strained, and disappointed by people he says have taken more from his projects than they contributed. At the same time, he says he remains committed to New Earth, tries to avoid judgment, and believes the movement will ultimately succeed despite opposition and internal difficulties.
He and the host close by discussing possible future topics, including Africa, gold, and alternative economic systems.
Presenters and Contributors
- NazareN (also referred to as Nazarene or Naz): Host
- Sacha Stone: Guest
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