Rev. Michael Carter | They Were Always Here, Biblical ETs, Directors of Evolution

Episode Overview

The episode of Forbidden Knowledge News features Reverend Michael Carter, a long-time UFO experiencer and minister. He argues that UFO/“extraterrestrial” contact should be understood through a biblical—and broader religious—lens rather than only as technology or government secrecy.

Carter’s Background and the Basis for His Conclusions

• Carter says his UFO perspective comes directly from personal experiences beginning in 1989 (first described as a visitation/encounter after returning to New York from a trip).
• He reports multiple encounters over the years, including beings he describes as non-human, later referencing reptilian and praying mantis–like experiences.
• He describes significant life changes after the experiences:
  • increased intuition
  • less need for sleep
  • involvement in healing practices (notably Reiki)
  • writing multiple books about UFOs and religion

“Angels” and “Demons” as Interpretive Overlays

Carter’s main interpretive claim is that biblical “angels” may correspond more closely to extraterrestrial beings than to purely spiritual entities.

• In biblical languages (e.g., “malakim” / “angelos”), Carter argues “angel” refers more to function/duty than to origin or nature—and that “wings” are likely metaphorical.
• He pushes back on equating UFO beings directly with “demons.”
• Instead, he suggests “demon” language may be a theological reinterpretation of encounters—potentially shaped by narratives influenced by Enoch and Genesis 6 “fallen angels” traditions.

Biblical Stories That Resemble UFO/UAP Accounts

Carter points to several Old/early biblical narratives as unintentionally describing physical craft or encounters:

• Ezekiel’s “wheel within a wheel” as an early attempt to describe an aircraft-like phenomenon.
• Elijah being taken up in a chariot as a sky-travel account.
• Exodus’ pillar of cloud/fire as possibly consistent with glowing craft or cloud-camouflage concepts.
• Jesus taken up on/into a cloud after the resurrection as possibly a literal description of craft disguised as a cloud—or at least a similar “sky trope” seen across cultures.

Relationship to Mesopotamian / Creation Myths and “Anunnaki”

Carter argues that ancient cultures (Mesopotamian traditions, Enuma Elish, Gilgamesh-related traditions, Mayan references, and various African traditions) describe sky beings who influenced human development.

• He frames Tower of Babel and “Enlil/Enki”-style stories as analogous to Genesis themes, especially because he believes biblical texts incorporated and transformed earlier polytheistic myth material into monotheism.
• He contends that Yahweh in the Old Testament is presented differently than later New Testament depictions, suggesting these differences may reflect the merging or re-labeling of multiple entities.

A Spectrum: Benevolent, Neutral, and Harmful Intelligences

Carter rejects “either/or” thinking (all-good or all-evil) and proposes a spectrum of interacting entities—analogous to how humans can display benevolent and malevolent behavior.

• On “what they want,” he does not assert a simple “they eat us” claim.
• Instead, he suggests beings may be watching human destructive patterns and interactions and/or may be relatively less evolved (or differently evolved), reducing the plausibility of a complete takeover.
• He also rejects simplistic blame models that explain everything solely through extraterrestrial “controllers,” emphasizing that humans still hold responsibility and often seek convenient explanations.

Why Contact Became Less Visible in Modern Times

Carter argues humans didn’t truly lose touch; they learned to keep silent due to:

• persecution
• stigma
• organized religion’s historical crackdown on “demonic” interpretations

He suggests modern people may avoid reporting contact because it threatens:

• careers
• mental health treatment access
• social standing

Disclosure, Secrecy, and “Zero Point / Free Energy”

Carter frames “disclosure” as unlikely to be fully controlled by governments, describing it as potentially a “carrot on a stick.”

• He argues some disclosure is being managed because of practical consequences—especially hinted as free-energy and other disruptive technologies.
• Such technologies could undermine existing power structures (e.g., money systems, healthcare profits, defense industries).
• He suggests governments might withhold information indefinitely, while experiencers and private accounts provide the more meaningful form of “real disclosure.”

“Hybrid” Phenomena and Genesis 6 / Nephilim

Carter affirms belief in the hybrid phenomenon as described by abductees, including:

• human-like hybrids
• “dicing/splicing”
• beings walking among humans

He links this to Genesis 6 and the Nephilim concept, interpreted as long-running interventions involving breeding/offspring.

Spiritual Battle and AI / Government Control Framing

The discussion expands into modern politics and information control.

• Carter describes the current era as a struggle over what reality is, involving governments, media narratives, and emerging AI information warfare.
• He emphasizes the need for a grounding “path” (not necessarily dogmatic religion), arguing that without it people may become mentally overwhelmed by misinformation and uncertainty.

Hope for the Future

Carter closes with optimism:

• he believes humanity will evolve toward cooperation and away from divisive competition
• he predicts major contact/awareness may occur beyond government control
• he suggests positive change is already underway, even if not guaranteed

Presenters / Contributors

• Chris Matthew (Host)
• Reverend Michael Carter (Guest / speaker)