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IRAN WAR, $111 OIL, FRENCH BONDS: WHAT BREAKS FIRST? - w/ George Gammon

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Oil, Inflation, and the Economy

Oil reportedly fell from about $111 to $103 per barrel on news of a possible deal, then rose to roughly $109 after the deal was denied. George Gammon said prolonged disruption around the Strait of Hormuz could keep oil and refined-fuel supplies under pressure.

Gammon outlined a risk scenario in which oil reaches $120–$140. If refining “crack spreads” remain elevated, he said U.S. diesel could rise from roughly $6–$7 per gallon to $9–$10. Higher fuel and transportation costs could feed into consumer prices and company expenses.

He argued that financially strained consumers may limit companies’ ability to pass higher input costs on to customers. If so, margins could shrink and companies could cut jobs. Energy-driven inflation could then contribute to demand destruction and recession, a pattern he compared with the Global Financial Crisis (GFC).

Gammon described labor-market indicators, including nonfarm payrolls, as weak. He also noted that after a hot CPI reading, the 10-year Treasury yield reportedly reached about 5.33% intraday, then fell to around 5.04% within roughly 24 hours of a very hot PPI report. He interpreted that counterintuitive bond-market move as a possible signal that investors were anticipating weaker demand.

He said the MOVE Index, a measure of Treasury-market volatility, had been spiking. More broadly, he argued that market and policy uncertainty can weigh on economic activity.

Market-Risk Comparisons and Portfolio Ideas

Gammon compared the market’s 2026 setup with 1929, rather than only with the dot-com bubble. He cited a historical account in which the market fell about 25% in four days and nearly 50% within 70 days at the start of the 1929 decline; the eventual drawdown was about 89%. He said it took 24 years to recover in nominal terms, and that the inflation-adjusted stock market was roughly flat from 1929 to 1980.

He cited the Buffett indicator at about 245%, compared with roughly 130% at the 1929 peak, and the CAPE ratio near 41, versus about 32 then. He presented these as risk comparisons, not precise timing signals.

Gammon contrasted the dot-com bust—during which he said the Nasdaq fell about 80%, the S&P 500 about 45%, and stocks took roughly 15 years to recover—with the possibility that today’s economy is more dependent on asset prices and AI capital spending. He warned that a severe equity decline could therefore have broader economic effects.

His practical risk-management framework centered on the 200-day moving average:

  • Green: Stay invested in the chosen asset.
  • Yellow: Consider holding more cash alongside the position.
  • Red: Consider reducing exposure, or potentially taking a short position if appropriate.

One example allocation was 50% long / 50% cash in a red signal, compared with 100% long in green. He said the approach could be applied to the S&P 500, gold, or Bitcoin, and might sacrifice some upside in exchange for less downside exposure.

Gammon also described his own approach as finding a position he likes on the short side and hedging it with a long S&P 500 position. He cautioned that this is difficult and requires care.

He argued that investors may need a more active approach than “set it and forget it” in a prolonged bear market. He mentioned Treasuries as a possible place to be during a two-year bear market, while acknowledging the difficulty of investing in that environment.

Gold, Silver, and Miners

Gammon said he prefers gold miners to silver as a potential downturn holding because silver has industrial demand and could be more vulnerable to economic weakness.

He cautioned that gold can fall during liquidity squeezes as institutions sell liquid assets for cash, citing 2008 and a brief period in March 2020. He said gold later benefited when policy responses were viewed as supportive.

He cited miners’ costs of roughly $1,800 per unit against gold near $4,000—figures discussed in the interview—and said that could imply strong margins. He cautioned that high diesel costs could weigh on miners’ expenses or share prices. He described the gold-to-miners relationship as potentially attractive but subject to energy and geopolitical risks.

Monetary-System and Dollar Scenario

Gammon described a possible global liquidity crisis in which the dollar “crashes up”: it could strengthen against other currencies and asset prices even if it does not gain purchasing power against everyday U.S. goods and services.

He cited about $253 trillion in global debt in 2020 and contrasted it with an estimate of roughly $75 trillion in actual dollars, arguing that lending and shadow-bank activity expand dollar-denominated claims. In his scenario, slowing money velocity could make debts harder to service, leading to corporate failures, bank stress, and a severe contraction.

As a possible extreme outcome, he suggested the DXY could reach 120–150 during a global dollar shortage, and raised a “Plaza Accord 2.0” as a possible policy response to weaken the dollar against other currencies. These were presented as risks and possibilities, not predictions. He emphasized that a stronger dollar against currencies would not necessarily mean lower U.S. grocery bills or rents.

Disclosures and Cautions

Gammon explicitly said his comments on the moving-average approach were not investing advice. He repeatedly stressed that markets involve probabilities, not certainties, and that his severe downturn and dollar scenarios were risks rather than forecasts.

French bonds are mentioned in the video title but are not discussed in the provided subtitles.

Presenters and Sources Mentioned

Presenters: Brandon Wert, identified as co-host (the closing name is transcribed as “Brandon Wiker”), and George Gammon, macro investor and host of Rebel Capitalist.

Sources or commentators referenced: Jim Bianco, Thomas Sowell, Jim Grant, Mike Green, and historical comparisons to the 1929 crash, the dot-com bust, the GFC, and the 1940s inflation experience.

Gammon promoted the Rebel Capitalist Newsletter, described as two emails per week: a macro alert and a trade alert.

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