Deep Diving SPACE MARINE RUMOURS! This is getting WILD!

Overview

The video is a live-streamed “deep dive” that mixes:

1. Space Marines / 40K rumor talk, and
2. Major updates on an unrelated Kickstarter game/project set in the First Crusade (frequent mentions of “Martyrdom” / “Martam”).

Most of the chat includes banter, but several concrete plans and rumor claims come through.

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Space Marine / 40K Rumor Discussion (light on hard evidence, heavy on speculation)

Blood Angels, Salamanders, and general chapter chatter

• The host reiterates that many Blood Angel-related rumors are unlikely, humorously dismissing some—while steering viewers toward what they claim are more plausible Corbulous/Corbalo-type rumors.
• For Salamanders, the host suggests there are little-to-no confirmed updates beyond general discussion that Space Marine supplements (for specific chapters) may include model releases.
  • Named possibilities: Raven Guard, White Scars, Iron Hands, Imperial Fists
  • Uncertainty remains for Salamanders.

“Christmas boxes” speculation (paint timing)

• The stream discusses a potential “Christmas boxes” reveal, but the content is not shown yet.
• The host speculates it’s likely tied to paint product timing, implying Games Workshop is keeping attention on paint preorders.

Other rumor claims

• A new Dreadnought is described as still “happening,” with speculation about possible Space Wolf dreadnought directions.
• “Angelus task force” / Blood Angel links are denied as unlikely.
• The host provides general commentary on current rules/updates:
  • They haven’t fully “deep dived” into the new Space Marine rules (including Brutalis rules).
  • However, they do discuss at least one Brutalis interaction:
    • confirming it still has Tank Shock
    • clarifying “Crushing Impact” interactions

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Kickstarter / Game-Project Update (substantive details)

Most actionable content focuses on the First Crusade tabletop project.

Kickstarter progress and timeline

• They mention being at approximately ~2,130 followers.
• They aim to launch at the end of the month.

Funding expectation and resin → plastic unlocks

• The plan is to keep the base goal resin printed, with plastic manufacturing unlocked gradually via tiers:
  • Base game: all resin
  • Tier 1: spear unit(s) become plastic
  • Tier 2+: additional units progressively become plastic

Product format: physical models only

The host strongly emphasizes physical models only:

• They view sellable STL files for the core box as misaligned with Kickstarter goals and less supportive than physical backing.
• STLs are also described as discouraging people who don’t have printers.
• Future releases may include terrain STLs, potentially via licensing/rental with 3D-printing shops.
• But core game files should not be expected.

Box content and pricing (estimates)

• Estimated Kickstarter price ~£150 for the full set for backers (later retail likely higher).
• Mention of ~86 models split between two forces.
• Additional box elements include:
  • narrative/history book
  • dice for both factions
  • coins / coin purse
  • tokens / fatigue markers
  • assembly options
  • and other supporting components

Rules approach

• Rules are positioned as accessible from the start.
• The launch should include a PDF of free rules so players can begin immediately.

Expected gameplay tone and balance

• The host expects the game will be “broken” or very wild at first interactions.
• They plan to balance later, but anticipates chat will actively exploit combos.

Expansion plans if successful

• If the Kickstarter succeeds, they intend to expand into future periods/sets, potentially:
  • other Crusade eras
  • and potentially Romans later
• Current focus remains firmly on the First Crusade.

Campaign flavor and history claims

• The project includes flavor mechanics grounded in historical claims, including:
  • camp followers providing gameplay bonuses (linked to claims about support at the Battle of Doram)
• Other period-accurate narrative elements are also discussed.

Production and community updates

• Ongoing sculpting/painting reveals
• Mentions of shipping donkey-cart models
• Coordination with collaborators, including someone offering to host a stream/batrep in their studio

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Stream Mechanics & Giveaways (supporting context)

• Stream restarts are discussed due to lag/audio issues.
• Frequent membership/gifting events occur.
• At least one Nightbot giveaway happens:
  • Winner: “Krug”
  • Prize: a Greg’s voucher / sausage roll
• Some goals are tied to membership milestones, including:
  • 50 memberships triggering a “Christmas day dog handler model reveal” concept
  • framed as a legally distinct offshoot/model idea

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Presenters or Contributors

• Val (main host)
• Dhaka (regular contributor/mod in chat)
• Donal Paints (chat contributor)
• Robert (chat contributor)
• Commandor (chat contributor)
• Relic Forge Studios (acknowledged supporter/contributor)
• Lab lad / lab (chat contributor)
• MJ (chat contributor)
• Daka (chat contributor)
• Limited Time AK (membership gifter / supporter)
• Taylor (chat contributor)
• Krug (giveaway winner; chat participant)
• Mahesy (chat contributor)
• Mad Locker (chat contributor)
• Lambo (external creator referenced re: commissions/character model work)
• Woodimp (external collaborator mentioned re: shipping donkey carts)
• Battleb Barn (collaborator offering studio space for a future live batrep)
• April (mentioned as family/off-stream time; not a presenter)
• Nightbot (used for the giveaway mechanism)