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TVS & Murugappa: The Aerospace, Defence & Semiconductor Connection

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Key takeaways

Business

Business overview (what’s common / why these are “unique”)

  • Sundaram Fasteners (TVS Group) and Carborundum Universal (Murugappa Group) are positioned as niche, high-margin businesses within traditionally “old economy” industrial families.
  • Shared thesis: Both companies have industry-leading margins in their core categories and are pivoting into “new age” growth areas such as:
    • Aerospace / defence / wind
    • Semiconductors / SOFC ceramics

Frameworks / screening process used (playbook)

  • Conference-call keyword & target scanning

    • Sundaram Fasteners: reviewed concall summaries for aerospace scaling targets, validated with overall financial growth.
      • Aerospace target pulled from concall: ₹50–₹100 crore “this year” with ₹500 crore ambition in 2–3 years.
    • Carborundum Universal: specifically looked for discussions around new engines in semiconductors, defence, and SOFC (solid oxide fuel cells).
  • Growth-catalyst confirmation

    • Confirmed guidance changes and timeline peaks (e.g., ceramics growth and semiconductor contribution ramp).
  • Unit economics + margin attribution

    • Sundaram: margins explained via defect rates/quality and contract structures.
    • Carborundum: margins explained via integration across the value chain and higher-margin ceramics.
  • Valuation cross-check

    • Used scenario-based valuation ranges (base/bull/bear) using assumptions on guidance and margin uplift.

Key metrics & KPIs extracted

A) Sundaram Fasteners (TVS Group)

Core margin / profitability

  • EBITDA margin: ~16–17%
  • Margin protection: profits and margin stayed intact even during an auto downcycle.

Growth / guidance

  • Q1 FY27 top-line growth: +20%
  • Q1 FY27 EBITDA growth: +15%
  • Mid-term revenue growth guidance: 15–16%
  • Bottom-line growth guidance: ~20%
  • Exports growth guidance (FY27): +15–20%
  • Q2 & Q3: called out as strong (ahead of annual performance)

Segment mix (given as % of revenue / relative share)

  • Fasteners: ~₹2,800–₹3,000 crore sales (largest footprint)
  • Powertrain components: 12–15% of revenue
  • Metal forms: 10–12%
  • Cast & machine components: leveraged to North American Class 8 trucks
  • Powder metallurgy: ~5%
  • Hot & warm forgings (wind fasteners): 10–12% of revenues; 100–200 bps higher margins

Targets / scaling plans

  • Aerospace fasteners:
    • ₹50–₹100 crore (near-term target)
    • ₹500 crore in 2–3 years
  • Wind fasteners:
    • ₹350 crore run-rate → ₹500 crore after an additional ₹100 crore investment
  • Railway fasteners:
    • ₹30 crore/year → ₹100 crore annual run-rate (timing described as “just started”)

Capex

  • ~₹400 crore total capex allocation (breakdown mentioned):
    • ₹250 crore into fasteners
    • ₹100 crore into forgings & wind
    • Remaining ₹50–₹100 crore into cast & machine components (for North America truck demand)

Valuation signals (scenario-based, high level)

  • Trading multiple referenced: ~40–45x earnings (current)
  • Scenario P/E ranges on FY29:
    • Bull: ~24x
    • Base: ~28.7x
    • Bear: ~34.5x
  • Revenue/earnings scenario guidance (approximate):
    • Revenue: ~₹6,289 crore baseline; could move toward ₹9,000–₹10,000 crore (base/bull)
    • PAT: ~₹730 crore (bear), ~₹880 crore (base), ~₹1,030 crore (bull)

Key risks to track (execution-oriented)

  • Truck cycle deterioration (North America Class 8) impacting demand
  • Oil & gas / ICE terminal value risk: 35–40% of revenue linked to oil-gas vehicles
    • Mitigation via EV/agnostic use claims
  • Program slip risk (example: automotive program scaling down vs peak expectations)
  • Input cost volatility (steel/materials) pressuring margins short-term

Operational drivers / margin mechanics

  • Margin creation: low PPM defect rates, metallurgical control, and engineered/customized supply
  • Contract structures: shift commodity risk back to buyers (pricing power / pass-through described)

B) Carborundum Universal (Murugappa Group)

Segment economics & margins

  • Value chain split (sales mix):
    • Electro minerals: 32%
    • Abrasives: 44%
    • Ceramics: 25%
  • Ceramics margins: ~20.2% (higher than abrasives/electro-minerals)
  • Abrasives: ~9.5% overall
    • PBIT for abrasives mentioned around 7.9 in a referenced slice
  • Electro minerals: ~9–9.5% (“necessary evil” due to integration role)

Guidance and growth targets

  • Ceramics growth guidance raised: 23–25% (from earlier 23 → 25)
  • Semiconductor ceramics timeline:
    • Contribution described as starting FY28 and peaking FY30
  • Receivables guidance (interest on receivables): referenced as ~11–12%
  • Ceramics margin guidance: ~20.5–21%
  • Ceramics growth guidance revised over quarters; ended at 25% (as referenced in the “growth guidance trend” section)

New age “adjacencies” & capacity plans

  • SOFC ceramics:
    • pilot plant mentioned
    • described as used in Bloom Energy-like hot boxes for data center power
  • Semiconductor wafer fab ceramics:
    • ceramics supplied to wafer fabrication & equipment manufacturers
    • (not manufacturing fabs/equipment directly)
  • Defence / ballistic armour:
    • ceramics for ballistic armour with qualifications/large order mentioned
  • Capex: ~₹400 crore into ceramics / new age industries
  • Optionality size (incremental revenue): ceramics business could add ~₹50–₹100 million incremental revenue (higher margin asserted)

Profitability reset / self-help story

  • Past headwinds:
    • Abrasives pressure from Chinese dumping
    • Loss-making European business
    • Russia sanctions exposure: cash trapped ~₹297 crore
    • South Africa JV exit (in Q2 FY27)
  • Near-term lever: China subsidy removal leading to better pricing power

Key risks to track

  • Too many moving parts across geographies/products
    • execution and capital allocation quality risk
  • Russia / sanctions exposure: trapped cash and need for strategic restructuring

Valuation signals (scenario-based, high level)

  • Base-case example provided:
    • Sales ₹5,100 cr → ₹7,200 cr (via optionalities)
    • Margins 12.4% → 14.8%
    • PAT ₹310 cr → ~₹580 cr
  • Trading multiple referenced:
    • ~30–35x earnings (FY29 basis) in a base-like scenario
    • Bull case: EPS could reach ~₹37 and earnings multiple ~27–28x (as stated)

Concrete examples / customer wins referenced

Sundaram Fasteners

  • Aerospace customer additions: Skyroute Aerospace added to roster (ISRO, GE cited)
  • Automotive wins: orders from Hyundai and K (sizes referenced: ₹100 crore+)
  • Supplier qualification / long-term platform effect: passenger vehicle platform life 7–10 years (supplier lock-in)

Carborundum Universal

  • Semiconductors:
    • qualified anchor customers for semiconductor wafer fab equipment
    • orders mentioned for semiconductor WFE ceramics and SOFC ceramics
  • Defence:
    • ballistic armour qualifications achieved
    • “large armor order” and export approvals referenced
  • Switchgear / metallized cylinders:
    • World #2 producer
    • ~30% market share in India abrasives
    • increasing utilization and move toward semiconductor-grade quality in silicon carbide
  • Integration moat: electrominerals upstream supply supports quality vs Chinese fluctuations

Actionable “what to watch” (execution tracking metrics)

Sundaram Fasteners: only track 3 things

  • Non-automotive revenue growth (especially wind/aerospace/defence/railway)
  • Margins (do they expand with mix shift?)
  • Overall revenue growth acceleration (returning after ~12–16 quarters)

Carborundum Universal: track capital allocation + restructuring levers

  • Ceramics scale-up: growth to ~25%, margin stability ~20.5–21%
  • Execution of FY28–FY30 semiconductor ramps
  • Abrasives restructuring to offset European weakness and validate margin “self-help”
  • Sanction exposure resolution: Russia cash trapped ~₹297 cr

Presenters / sources

  • Presenter: narrator/author of the “SOIC – Unique Business Analysis series” (no individual name provided in subtitles)
  • Companies discussed:
    • Sundaram Fasteners (TVS Group)
    • Carborundum Universal (Murugappa Group)
  • Source basis: information attributed to conference calls (concalls) and valuation analysis using third-party research referenced as StockScan / deepdive-style reports.

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