Summary of "You’re Waiting for the Bubble to Burst | Jan van Eck on Why It Already Has"
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“You’re Waiting for the Bubble to Burst | Jan van Eck on Why It Already Has”
Macroeconomic Context & Outlook for 2026
Fiscal Policy
- U.S. federal fiscal deficits as a percentage of GDP are trending downward:
- Peaked above 6.5% two years ago
- Just under 6% last year
- Expected below 5.5% going into 2026 (possibly as low as 5.3%)
- Key drivers include:
- Tariff revenues (~$300B+)
- Reduced U.S. spending on the Ukraine war (costs shifted to Europe)
- Efforts to cut welfare and healthcare spending
- This fiscal improvement reduces market stress related to debt levels.
Monetary Policy
- The Federal Reserve is expected to be less interventionist under the new chair (Trump nominee), continuing a philosophy of a smaller Fed with less market support.
- Interest rates are currently “normal”:
- Short-term rates around 3.5%
- 10-year yields approximately 4.1–4.2%
- No expectation of drastic rate cuts to 1%.
- Fed will intervene only in liquidity crises, contrasting with prolonged post-COVID stimulus.
- Market likely to see modest rate adjustments (quarter to three-quarters of a point) rather than shocks.
- Fed independence is debated but expected to remain intact; the Fed Chair is one vote on the FOMC.
Technology & Long-Term Trends
- Long-term macro focus (10–30 years) on trends such as:
- India’s economic growth (projected to rival continental Europe in 10 years)
- AI adoption
- Electrification
- Investors are encouraged to overweight emerging markets like India despite recent underperformance.
Markets, Investing Strategies & Themes
AI & Technology
- AI is ranked as the second most transformative U.S. technology after railroads.
- Token demand (compute power) is exploding — estimated 38x increase from summer 2024 to summer 2025.
- Semiconductor sector, notably Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), is benefiting with record earnings and all-time high stock prices.
- Nvidia is a key beneficiary, trading near multi-year lows on a P/E basis, making it an attractive buy.
- The Q4 202X correction in AI-related stocks (e.g., Oracle, Coreweave, Bitcoin miners) was healthy, reflecting risk repricing rather than a bubble burst.
- AI 2.0 phase involves broader industry adoption, especially in electricity generation and electrification.
- Nuclear energy ETFs and companies involved in electricity infrastructure (including Chevron’s gas turbine repurposing) are positioned to benefit.
- Compute shortages are expected to last at least two more years, supporting semiconductor demand.
Private Credit & Business Development Companies (BDCs)
- BDCs, which provide loans to mid-sized companies and trade publicly, saw valuation swings from a 10% premium to a 10% discount in Q4.
- Corporate and household debt levels are shrinking as a percentage of GDP; the federal government remains the largest borrower.
- No systemic private credit crisis is evident yet; BDCs offer liquidity and potential buying opportunities.
- Liquidity mismatch is a key risk in private credit ETFs; closed-end funds or interval funds better match illiquid underlying assets.
- Van Eck does not currently support daily-liquid ETFs with illiquid private assets due to hidden costs and liquidity risks.
Gold & Precious Metals
- Gold is reemerging as a global currency alternative amid geopolitical uncertainty and shifting global power (U.S., China, India).
- Gold price drivers include:
- Central bank buying
- Emerging market wealth growth
- Political risk in the U.S.
- Van Eck’s Gold Miners ETF has seen renewed interest after a decade of underperformance and declining production.
- Mining companies benefit from stable costs and rising gold prices, leading to improved profitability and stock multiples.
- Silver has surged recently but is considered overbought currently.
- The long-term gold thesis is secular and global, not just U.S.-inflation driven.
- Investors are encouraged to allocate to gold for diversification and risk mitigation despite potential volatility (20–25% corrections possible).
ETF Product Development & Family Business Advantages
- Van Eck offers a diverse lineup of ETFs across stocks, bonds, crypto, commodities, and thematic strategies (e.g., gold miners, semiconductors, blockchain).
- Family ownership provides stability, allowing focus on long-term management rather than quarterly earnings pressures.
- Profit-sharing compensation aligns employee interests with firm success.
- Experience in private equity and venture capital complements public market offerings.
Market Structure & Innovation
- Van Eck was an early Bitcoin ETF sponsor (2017) and is actively exploring blockchain, stablecoins, and tokenization.
- Recent U.S. stablecoin legislation is seen as transformative, enabling tech firms (e.g., Coinbase) to compete with banks in financial services.
- Tokenization initiatives by exchanges like NYSE (e.g., 24/7 trading via blockchain) are being monitored.
- Robinhood’s work on prediction markets and tokenized financial products is highlighted as innovative retail finance infrastructure.
Key Numbers & Instruments Mentioned
- Fiscal Deficit: Expected below 5.5% of GDP in 2026 fiscal year
- Interest Rates: Short-term ~3.5%, 10-year yields ~4.1–4.2%
- Token Demand Growth: ~38x increase from summer 2024 to summer 2025
- Gold Price: All-time highs recently (exact price not specified)
- Gold Mining Share Decline: Down 90% from 2011 to 2016, now recovering
- BDCs: Valuation swings from 10% premium to 10% discount in Q4 202X
- ETF Examples:
- Van Eck Gold Miners ETF
- Van Eck Wide Mo ETF
- Actively managed Bitcoin miners ETF (Node)
- Nuclear energy ETFs
- Semiconductor ETF (SMH)
Methodologies / Frameworks Highlighted
Macro-Thematic Investing Framework
- Focus on three pillars:
- Government spending (fiscal policy)
- Monetary policy
- Technology trends
- Use long-term (10–30 years) trend analysis rather than short-term market noise.
- Asset allocation should reflect evolving global economic power (e.g., overweight India).
- Incorporate behavioral finance awareness: avoid recency bias by using multi-decade historical data.
Private Credit ETF Liquidity Matching
- Match liquidity of underlying assets with ETF structure (e.g., interval funds, closed-end funds for illiquid assets).
- Avoid daily liquidity ETFs with illiquid holdings to reduce hidden transaction costs and liquidity risk.
Explicit Recommendations & Cautions
AI & Semiconductors
- Buy Nvidia on earnings basis; semiconductor demand remains strong for at least two years.
- Expect healthy market differentiation in AI-related stocks; the Q4 correction was positive for the ecosystem.
Private Credit & BDCs
- BDCs can be attractive buying opportunities if no systemic credit crisis emerges.
- Investors should be cautious about liquidity mismatches in private credit ETFs.
Gold
- Long-term bullish on gold as a global reserve asset and inflation/geopolitical hedge.
- Prepare for volatility; use allocation models to manage risk.
- Gold mining equities offer leveraged exposure but remain less popular with U.S. investors.
Behavioral Advice
- Avoid short-term recency bias; use long-term data for investment decisions.
- Learn from losses and mistakes to accelerate investing knowledge.
Disclosure
No information in the podcast should be construed as investment advice.
Presenters / Sources
- Jan van Eck — CEO of Van Eck, ETF and asset management expert.
- Podcast Host: Unnamed host from Excess Returns podcast.
- References made to Scott Bessant (incoming Fed Chair nominee), Jensen Huang (Nvidia CEO), Jamie Dimon (JPMorgan CEO), Josh Brown (market commentator), and others.
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